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  • when are we going to see xvba video acceleration on Ati hd 5650 cards?
    i bought this card mostly for video acceleration and some games..

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    • Where are users suppose to report fglrx bugs to?

      I've searched the amd/ati website for where you can report bugs and have not found where i can report an issue. If your interested its:

      sleep 1; xset dpms force off ; sleep 10; xset dpms force on

      This should and does work with ati open source driver, but with fglrx it does not completly wake up from sleep. I think this would take one of your engineers like 2 minutes to fix this. In any case i would still like to know where you are suppose to report bugs officially. Its the last part of this that is the concern, when my screen saver goes off on htpc I want it to wake on remote keypress, the remote keypress runs xset dpms force on and should turn back on the screen but it does not, at least with the property driver.

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      • http://ati.cchtml.com/

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        • Originally posted by goauld View Post
          when are we going to see xvba video acceleration on Ati hd 5650 cards?
          i bought this card mostly for video acceleration and some games..
          when it's done

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          • hello I notice that since FGLRX 10.7 powerplay is missing for ati mobility radeon 2600
            is it possible to put again the support of this technology on 10.9 please?
            because when this technology isn't activate, mobility cards whit arn't cooled by fan burn.

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            • Originally posted by kernelOfTruth View Post
              Is the official answer from AMD/ATI, though?

              Isn't there any guesstimates?

              Is anyone working on it, at least? It works in Windows so...

              It would be a major contributing factor for me choosing an ATI card.

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              • Originally posted by Panix View Post
                Isn't there any guesstimates?
                Altough I'm not an AMD official, I don't think there are any ETAs. The developers are now working on "basic" things like 2D/3D/PowerPlay for R800/R900 (internally).

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                • Originally posted by MartjeB View Post
                  Altough I'm not an AMD official, I don't think there are any ETAs. The developers are now working on "basic" things like 2D/3D/PowerPlay for R800/R900 (internally).
                  Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. It doesn't really matter when they just ignore you anyway.

                  I guess it is to be expected when they have no resources to work with and there's virtually no investment in drivers on the Linux side.

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                  • Why do you feel you are being ignored ? None of the GPU companies announce ETAs for proprietary driver features. We have told you that a number of times - I'm not sure why you keep asking the same questions over and over then expecting us to answer you every time.

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                    • Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                      Why do you feel you are being ignored ? None of the GPU companies announce ETAs for proprietary driver features. We have told you that a number of times - I'm not sure why you keep asking the same questions over and over then expecting us to answer you every time.
                      Are you serious? Are you not reading the threads in the AMD/ATI Linux section? It's not just 'lack of features' complaints, there's issues like black windows and other complaints. No responses for those from AMD/ATI.

                      Are those bugs or something else? Because I don't want to be one of those users, I choose to question these issues before I spend the money!

                      I have gone to the Fedora, Ubuntu and OpenSUSE forums, some of the complaints are the same. It seems the issues still exist. It's sad the resources seem to be so low. A shame good hardware is wasted.

                      I suppose the aim is for optimal open source drivers as much is allowed via the licensing/copyright? But, that is certainly some time to come as they're also said not to be usable yet. For the R800 cards, think of someone who spent $300+ on an HD 5850 and they have issues in the binary driver and can't use the FOSS driver yet because 3D is not available yet or something to that effect? It's acceptable the FOSS drivers are not ready yet as it takes time but for binary drivers to be shoddy since last Sept. 09, that's incredulous, when Windoze drivers work fine (or at least acceptable) from eons ago!

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                      • You do understand that this is not an official AMD forum and that companies generally don't interact with users on internet fora, right?

                        The fact that several AMD employees and developers regularly post here and help people with their problems is very unusual and refreshing.

                        How many Nvidia developers post here? How many Apple developers? Or Microsoft developers?

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                        • Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                          You do understand that this is not an official AMD forum and that companies generally don't interact with users on internet fora, right?

                          The fact that several AMD employees and developers regularly post here and help people with their problems is very unusual and refreshing.

                          How many Nvidia developers post here? How many Apple developers? Or Microsoft developers?
                          I understand that. That's very commendable and particularly well appreciated as many posters have pointed out.

                          I wasn't really talking about direct responses explaining it on the forums. I meant 'responses' as in acknowledgement in driver releases or just statements on AMD/ATI Linux pages, for e.g.. Or are you saying some of these issues are brand new? Surely, you've read posts in which ATI R800 owners say, 'XYZ issue is still there....' I guess I implied I wanted an AMD dev to respond personally to complaints and while that would be great I'm sure, I don't expect that.

                          I was told Nvidia has Nvnews and it seems some 'Nvidia Corp.' posters are responding directly.

                          Resources?

                          This is also the 'ask an AMD dev' section so I'm not even sure why you're objecting to my last post. They can answer or not, right?

                          I assume if someone answers they'll state they're aware of most issues and working on it or something to that effect. I'm just wondering how that is illustrated if the bugs aren't fixed and there's even regressions in some cases. That's all. I don't mean to be disrespectful but just concerned. I still would like to support in buying a R800 card but I don't want to boot up Windows because of video card issues.

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                          • Originally posted by Panix View Post
                            Are you serious? Are you not reading the threads in the AMD/ATI Linux section? It's not just 'lack of features' complaints, there's issues like black windows and other complaints. No responses for those from AMD/ATI.

                            Are those bugs or something else? Because I don't want to be one of those users, I choose to question these issues before I spend the money!

                            I have gone to the Fedora, Ubuntu and OpenSUSE forums, some of the complaints are the same. It seems the issues still exist.
                            We are obviously not reading the same forums. There was a fair amount of discussion after the new 2D code was enabled, understanding where bugs were happening, asking for good bug reports, and explaining how to force the older XAA code in cases where the new code was not working well. If you are expecting a personal response to every post about every bug on every forum, then I don't think any of the hardware vendors are going to make you happy.

                            You may also be expecting a level of "responsiveness" from the binary driver which is only common in the open source world. We put out a new release each month, and each release includes a number of fixes / enhancements. The QA cycle for each release overlaps with the development cycle of the next release, so fixes for user issues encountered with release N are usually able to appear in release N+2 at the earliest, and typically later than that. You seem to be expecting "building from open source git master" turnaround times, saying "gee, it's been a couple of months and ohmigod the problem is still there, something must be terribly wrong !!".

                            Originally posted by Panix View Post
                            It's sad the resources seem to be so low. A shame good hardware is wasted.
                            Yeah, it's a shame that we are constantly improving the driver and that the new driver code sometimes has problems in certain scenarios. It would be so much better if we didn't do that, right ? Do you remember *why* the new accel code was implemented in the first place (X server patch was removed which made performance suck with otherwise fine XAA acceleration when running a compositor) ?

                            Originally posted by Panix View Post
                            I suppose the aim is for optimal open source drivers as much is allowed via the licensing/copyright? But, that is certainly some time to come as they're also said not to be usable yet. For the R800 cards, think of someone who spent $300+ on an HD 5850 and they have issues in the binary driver and can't use the FOSS driver yet because 3D is not available yet or something to that effect? It's acceptable the FOSS drivers are not ready yet as it takes time but for binary drivers to be shoddy since last Sept. 09, that's incredulous, when Windoze drivers work fine (or at least acceptable) from eons ago!
                            Panix, here's my problem. You don't seem to actually read anyone's responses to you, and every new post you make asks the same questions that have already been answered multiple times. After a while people are going to ignore you and stop answering your questions unless you start making an effort to listen.

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                            • Originally posted by Panix View Post
                              This is also the 'ask an AMD dev' section so I'm not even sure why you're objecting to my last post. They can answer or not, right?
                              This is actually a "dead thread" that was started for a planned article (Michael working with Matthew Tippett), collecting questions for Matthew and others to answer. The proposed article more or less died when Matthew left AMD, and the thread should probably be un-stickied to avoid confusion.

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                              • Observing number of replies, this does not seem like a dead thread

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