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  • I think you were being a little retarded when you bought an ATi card to use on Linux.

    Its no mystery that ATi driver suck balls, be it Windows or Linux.

    I still have to jump hoops to get my old 9700mobile drivers installed on XP. And thats how old now???

    And how do you expect them to respond to your question? "It will be fixed in release X.y"? Its not like any of us would believe it anyway. They claim to fix the glxgears bug in every freakin release. So whats the use?

    Nvidia and ATi drivers both suck to a degree on Linux. But like the saying goes, in the land of binary blobs, the Nvidia driver is king.

    Buy an 8800GT or something. You wont be disappointed. You wont be frustrated. After all, it is 3D you want.

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    • Can you post your log please ?

      I probably don't need to say this, but "boot to black screen" is not a bug, just perhaps the most common symptom that *something* (probably specific to a distro release and hardware configuration) has gone wrong.

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      • Fresh install fedora 9 x86_64 with 8.12 -> blank screen
        Fresh install ubuntu 8.04 x86 with 8.12 -> blank screen
        Fresh install ubuntu 8.10 x86_64 wit 8.12 -> blank screen

        I've also tried older drivers, 8.9 etc..

        AMD 4200+ / Asus A8N-SLI Premium / Asus HD4870 TOP 512MB

        The machine is still responsive though. But the keyboard does nothing. I can ssh into the box, and it shows X using 99% of the CPU. I can kill it. But the screen is still dead.

        The Xorg.log is good. It shows fglrx loading and running fine, as well as the other modules.

        I've also built X and the complete X toolchain by hand to debug it, the xserver seems to get stuck in some sort of read lock, but its at different positions each time, so i just said fuk it and put my Nvidia card back in.

        Oh and if it matters, radeonhd works fine.

        boot to blank screen = The biggest problem with ATi drivers.

        And no, I'm not going to format this hard drive and install everything again just to get you some logs, I've spent enough time on this shit. You want logs, pay first.

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        • Originally posted by cruiseoveride View Post
          And no, I'm not going to format this hard drive and install everything again just to get you some logs, I've spent enough time on this shit. You want logs, pay first.


          Just so it's clear, I'm not actually *collecting* these logs or anything, just offering to take a look to see if I can help folks with their systems.

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          • Originally posted by bridgman View Post
            Can you post your log please ?

            I probably don't need to say this, but "boot to black screen" is not a bug, just perhaps the most common symptom that *something* (probably specific to a distro release and hardware configuration) has gone wrong.
            I'd love to but I get "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters." even though the post contains the log message pasted in. :/ I managed to post the last few lines.

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            (II) RADEONHD(0): EnableCRTC Successful
            (II) RADEONHD(0): Calling EnableCRTCMemReq
            (II) RADEONHD(0): EnableCRTCMemReq Successful
            (II) RADEONHD(0): Calling SetPixelClock
            (II) RADEONHD(0): SetPixelClock Successful
            (II) RADEONHD(0): Calling SetPixelClock
            (II) RADEONHD(0): SetPixelClock Successful
            (II) RADEONHD(0): Query for Restore Registers: failed
            (II) RADEONHD(0): Query for Restore Registers: failed

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            • Originally posted by Maarte View Post
              I'd love to but I get "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters."
              Ah yes, I had that problem too

              The easiest thing is to use pastebin (I use pastebin.ca) and post a link.

              BTW the log entries were from radeonhd but from your previous post I thought you were running the latest fglrx. Did you switch back to radeonhd after fglrx didn't work for you ?

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              • After battling with 9.1, I have another question: Why don't you sell ATI to someone who has a clue about writing drivers? No, no, I'm not joking. That would really help.

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                • Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                  Ah yes, I had that problem too

                  The easiest thing is to use pastebin (I use pastebin.ca) and post a link.

                  BTW the log entries were from radeonhd but from your previous post I thought you were running the latest fglrx. Did you switch back to radeonhd after fglrx didn't work for you ?
                  I had to switch back to radeonhd to get a working x session.

                  I'll try running the fglrx again and copying the logs from terminal, more than likely tomorrow. I've spent several hours back and forth trying to work this through, it's frustrating but I appreciate your efforts to help.

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                  • Reading through posts here, I can't believe how much flaming I see. I purchased Nvidia exclusively in the past because of their Linux drivers, but I see AMD's commitment to OSS, and so I just built a new rig with a Phenom II X4 940, a 790GX chipset, and a Radeon HD 4850 because I want to support AMD. I wasn't expecting much from the Linux drivers. I just hope I can get a decent working X session, video playback and composite effects. I do my gaming in Windows.

                    That being said, I'm curious about this Hybrid Crossfire feature I've read about. I can't find a list (including on Wikipedia or AMD's website) that says what video cards support this feature. AMD's website says I need a HD 3000 series card. Well, I bought a HD 4000 series card which is newer. So should I expect to be able to have Hybrid Crossfire support?

                    It would be nice to see up-to-date info on AMD's site.

                    Thanks for the work, and your commitment to improving your Linux drivers. I'm sorry that people feel the need to flame you for your efforts.

                    BTW, I'd love to see a Dragon Platform case badge. Do they exist, and can I get one somehow?

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                    • HD4850 Working flawlessy since the day I bought it. Always with FGLRX.

                      Yesterday, I run the 9.1 ATI installer (sudo ./ati_xxxxxx_etc...) and it worked like a charm. Reboot and voilá 9.1 working without any itch.

                      Seriously, or I do have lots of luck with my Hardware/Software/Distro/whatever but I'm using ATI in Linux since 2004 and the only problem I had was the memory leak bug. I had my problems with some installs, but it was always my fault (Reading some foruns, using some scripts, etc) make things right.

                      I dont have any HD content to verify the problems with video playback, besides that everything is working with ATI and improving a lot (Get Crossfire for any OpenGL app out plz!! )

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                      • Oops, wrong thread.

                        Anyway, two questions for bridgman:

                        1. Will fglrx RDR use the DRI2 and GEM/TTM infrastructure or will it take nvidia's route and rip everything out?

                        2. Can we expect OpenCL on Linux?
                        Last edited by BlackStar; 01-30-2009, 06:13 AM.

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                        • Realnic does not like thinking. He does like trolling.

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                          • Originally posted by energyman View Post
                            Realnic does not like thinking. He does like trolling.
                            ow, just deleted my message because I found myself being unconstructive... but since you already replied on my post:

                            Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                            After battling with 9.1, I have another question: Why don't you sell ATI to someone who has a clue about writing drivers? No, no, I'm not joking. That would really help.
                            They opensourced it... THINK about this... read back your posts... stupid right?
                            Last edited by tmpdir; 01-30-2009, 07:37 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                              1. Will fglrx RDR use the DRI2 and GEM/TTM infrastructure or will it take nvidia's route and rip everything out?
                              We were planning to use DRI2, but as I understand it current thinking is to bypass it and do our own implementation. We already have a good memory manager and do not plan to replace that with GEM/TTM.

                              Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                              2. Can we expect OpenCL on Linux?
                              I don't know for sure but I expect so. Linux is an important part of our Stream solutions and we expect OpenCL to become a core part of Stream.

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                              • There is no support for a1 surfaces in the open drivers & EXA, and seemingly won't be for months. Does frglx support it?

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