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  • #31
    Originally posted by dannydamsky View Post
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with FGLRX! All you need to do is configure it properly to work right.
    I have a Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 and I'm running FGLRX on Fedora 20 with it working like a charm, KDE compositing is on,
    I'm able to play games maxed out like Team Fortress 2, Left4Dead2, DOTA 2, and Trine 2. First thing you're doing wrong is installing
    the crappy drivers from the repositories! Install the binary drivers!
    If you're on Ubuntu here are the steps to installing the driver.
    1. To be able to get into the desktop, you have to first go to terminal (CTRL+ALT+F1), type in your user and password (Make sure you're ROOT or sudo).
    2. Install FGLRX from perositories: apt-get install fglrx
    3. After that type: amdconfig --initial && reboot
    4. Now you can access your desktop, so now you download the 13.11BETA driver from amd.com and unzip it, mine was placed in the Downloads folder so that's how I'll demonstrate it. And make sure to delete the zip file.
    5. Open terminal, and again make sure you're rooted or sudoed and type the following commands:
    $ cd Downloads
    $ chmod 770 amd*
    $ ./amd*
    6. Follow the instructions, decline reboot, and again type in the terminal: amdconfig --initial && reboot
    7. Once rebooted, you'll have everything working. Hope this works, cheers! (Oh and in case you wanna add some dependencies so it won't do any problems when the kernel updates, you might wanna install gcc make git git-core linux-headers-generic dkms build-essential before you install the actual driver.
    That's really overly complicated. All I have ever needed to do on any of my machines in Ubuntu is just:

    1) Download the latest Catalyst from AMD's Website
    2) sudo sh amd*.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/saucy
    3) sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb
    4) sudo apt-get install -f
    5) sudo amdconfig --initial
    6) sudo reboot

    Works every time.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by xtachx View Post
      If you are using fglrx proprietery you can just forget about this one as nothing supports this XvBA. Everyone went with VDPAU which catalyst proprietery does not support.
      Well there is
      -one player that supports xvba natively - the xbmc player's one non-official branch. Which isnt supported anymore (because radeon/VDPAU proved to be easier to work with), but may be some builds available. This does not even need this xvba-va-driver connector since it uses xvba directly.
      -vlc can use xvba via libva. This needs this xvba-va-driver which connects the xvba decoding into the libva's xvba backend allowing hardware decoding. Problem here is that the hardware decoding isnt used directly and only a subset of its features is working with higher CPU usage than with a native implementation. Also the decoding sometimes produces artifacts and causes crashes. This happens exactly the same way with the nvidia vdpau libva backend.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by dannydamsky View Post
        There is absolutely nothing wrong with FGLRX! All you need to do is configure it properly to work right.
        Actually there are many things wrong with fglrx. For a few examples you can browse http://ati.cchtml.com/ And yes, I have filed a few of those.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
          Actually there are many things wrong with fglrx. For a few examples you can browse http://ati.cchtml.com/ And yes, I have filed a few of those.
          And no one replied (or even read) any of them (I mean the entries on ati.cchtml.com). THAT is the biggest problem with FGLRX

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          • #35
            Originally posted by xtachx View Post
            And no one replied (or even read) any of them (I mean the entries on ati.cchtml.com). THAT is the biggest problem with FGLRX
            With respect, that's simply not true. I don't know an easy way to search for entries where AMD developers have responded (I guess I could troll through all my emails looking for update notifications), but I picked a recently active ticket at random and found that Jammy had been working on it :

            http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711

            AFAIK most of the tickets get read, but the devs only respond if they have questions or solutions/workarounds.

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            • #36
              Fact:

              - Jammy commented two months ago. (Jammy 2013-10-24 05:25:14 CDT )
              - one from 100 ones was commented

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              • #37
                Originally posted by LN17 View Post
                Fact:

                - Jammy commented two months ago. (Jammy 2013-10-24 05:25:14 CDT )
                - one from 100 ones was commented
                First one doesn't surprise me -- I picked a recently modified ticket at random, wasn't looking for recent comments by AMD developers.

                Second point doesn't sound right, but if you're stating it as fact then I guess you must have solid information. Presumably that would include :

                - complete list of AMD developer names
                - a good way to search for them (typing name into search box only gets you tickets where their name appears as a string in the comment, not when they commented)
                - total # tickets in the system
                - total # tickets with AMD developer comments

                If you have all that (or other similarly good info) then I have to accept your statement of fact. My impression was that a higher proportion of tickets had AMD developer comments though.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                  AFAIK most of the tickets get read, but the devs only respond if they have questions or solutions/workarounds.
                  Just even a quick acknowledgement of the issue can do wonders on how development is perceived. Reporting a bug to be left hanging without any feedback what so ever is extremely frustrating for the bug reporter.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                    That's really overly complicated. All I have ever needed to do on any of my machines in Ubuntu is just:

                    1) Download the latest Catalyst from AMD's Website
                    2) sudo sh amd*.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/saucy
                    3) sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb
                    4) sudo apt-get install -f
                    5) sudo amdconfig --initial
                    6) sudo reboot

                    Works every time.
                    NOT ANYMORE On Ubuntu 13.10, if you're using Unity or GNOME, your X server won't run at startup with the 7790, so you'll have to CTRL+ALT+F1 and from there install via APT the repository
                    FGLRX driver, then reboot, log into unity, while you're logged in, remove FGLRX, and then repeat those same steps as in fedora only with a bit different dependencies OH and you'll have to --force install the driver
                    Ubuntu sucks mate! At least with Fedora there's stability after installing the driver.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by dannydamsky View Post
                      NOT ANYMORE On Ubuntu 13.10, if you're using Unity or GNOME, your X server won't run at startup with the 7790, so you'll have to CTRL+ALT+F1 and from there install via APT the repository
                      FGLRX driver, then reboot, log into unity, while you're logged in, remove FGLRX, and then repeat those same steps as in fedora only with a bit different dependencies OH and you'll have to --force install the driver
                      Ubuntu sucks mate! At least with Fedora there's stability after installing the driver.
                      Living in denial eh? How is installing for a 7790 any different than installing for an array of 7950s and 6850s? It works the same today as it did forever before...

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                        Living in denial eh? How is installing for a 7790 any different than installing for an array of 7950s and 6850s? It works the same today as it did forever before...
                        Look mate, I have absolutely no reason to be living in denial, no need to insult me.

                        As for the 7950 and 6850, you've seem to forgotten one thing, open-source drivers don't work on all cards, and while 7950 and 6850 do work,
                        keep in mind that they've been out for longer and the developers had time to make support for them. The situation with the 7790 is different
                        as it's the latest card in the 7xxx series and it's based on a different chip (Bonaire) which is only included on it and the R7 260x, so drivers still
                        don't support it (Even AMD's FGLRX had their own performance driver for the 7790 for some time). And to prove my point,
                        while Ubuntu did crash on my 7790, on me bro's 7750 OpenGL2.0 seemed to have worked out of the box.
                        OFC X server will only crash on Ubuntu 13.10 as it's the first release to use 3d graphics in the display manager. So Ubuntu 13.04 and lower won't crash X server.
                        Hope this helped you understand my point, cheers!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by dannydamsky View Post
                          Look mate, I have absolutely no reason to be living in denial, no need to insult me.

                          As for the 7950 and 6850, you've seem to forgotten one thing, open-source drivers don't work on all cards, and while 7950 and 6850 do work,
                          keep in mind that they've been out for longer and the developers had time to make support for them. The situation with the 7790 is different
                          as it's the latest card in the 7xxx series and it's based on a different chip (Bonaire) which is only included on it and the R7 260x, so drivers still
                          don't support it (Even AMD's FGLRX had their own performance driver for the 7790 for some time). And to prove my point,
                          while Ubuntu did crash on my 7790, on me bro's 7750 OpenGL2.0 seemed to have worked out of the box.
                          OFC X server will only crash on Ubuntu 13.10 as it's the first release to use 3d graphics in the display manager. So Ubuntu 13.04 and lower won't crash X server.
                          Hope this helped you understand my point, cheers!
                          Logically, that made 0% sense whatsoever. It's also full of wrong information.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                            Logically, that made 0% sense whatsoever. It's also full of wrong information.
                            If you don't believe me try it yourself!
                            If you'd understand how drivers get developed a little, you'd know that it takes time to
                            support a certain product. As for the info I provided, it's 100% accurate, maybe you should do a little research
                            before going smartass eh?

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                            • #44
                              R7 260x support?

                              Hey, does anyone know when the R7 260x will be supported by the open source driver? It's actually just a slightly changed Radeon HD 7790 (which is suppiorted?).
                              I use ArchLinux and the latest drivers from the repos but I just get a black screen when trying to lauch something graphical. Xorg says something like "Display 0 not found" (If I remember correctly).

                              Any idea?

                              PS: Btw sorry if I didn't read threw all the posts. Just too many
                              Last edited by Nuc!eoN; 12-30-2013, 11:07 AM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by dannydamsky View Post
                                If you don't believe me try it yourself!
                                If you'd understand how drivers get developed a little, you'd know that it takes time to
                                support a certain product. As for the info I provided, it's 100% accurate, maybe you should do a little research
                                before going smartass eh?
                                It is you that needs to do some research because the information you provided was not 100% accurate, and you have clearly demonstrated that you don't understand what you are talking about. It has nothing to do with drivers in the first place. First of all, the GPU you are using will not magically alter how you install a driver. Second of all, HD 7790s are not new by any means and have been supported in Catalyst for many months now.

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