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  • Tired of being screwed by ATI? Do something!

    Well, after being screwed by ATI for several months I decided I have to take actions

    October 29: nVidia GeForce 8800GT 256/512MB release and in stock

    What you have now -> Good upgrade


    Radeon X1300 -> GeForce 7300GT
    Radeon X1600 -> GeForce 7600GS/GeForce 8500GT
    Radeon X1650 -> GeForce 7900GS/GeForce 8600GT
    Radeon X1950P -> GeForce 8800GS
    Radeon X1950XT -> GeForce 8800GT 256MB
    Radeon X1950XTX -> GeForce 8800GT 512MB

    Radeon HD2400 -> GeForce 8500GT
    Radeon HD2600PRO/XT -> GeForce 8600GT
    Radeon HD2900PRO -> GeForce 8800GT 512MB
    Radeon HD2900XT -> GeForce 8800GTS 640MB, NEW GeForce 8800GTS 512MB
    Radeon HD3800? -> GeForce 8800GT 256MB/512MB, NEW GeForce 8800GTS 512MB


    This table tells you what to buy. DO NOT BUY ATI if you ever want to use Linux! Remember!

    I will get ride of my X1900 and go to a 8800GT soon and post back results later!

  • #2
    Originally posted by FunkyRider View Post
    Well, after being screwed by ATI for several months I decided I have to take actions

    October 29: nVidia GeForce 8800GT 256/512MB release and in stock

    What you have now -> Good upgrade


    Radeon X1300 -> GeForce 7300GT
    Radeon X1600 -> GeForce 7600GS/GeForce 8500GT
    Radeon X1650 -> GeForce 7900GS/GeForce 8600GT
    Radeon X1950P -> GeForce 8800GS
    Radeon X1950XT -> GeForce 8800GT 256MB
    Radeon X1950XTX -> GeForce 8800GT 512MB

    Radeon HD2400 -> GeForce 8500GT
    Radeon HD2600PRO/XT -> GeForce 8600GT
    Radeon HD2900PRO -> GeForce 8800GT 512MB
    Radeon HD2900XT -> GeForce 8800GTS 640MB, NEW GeForce 8800GTS 512MB
    Radeon HD3800? -> GeForce 8800GT 256MB/512MB, NEW GeForce 8800GTS 512MB


    This table tells you what to buy. DO NOT BUY ATI if you ever want to use Linux! Remember!

    I will get ride of my X1900 and go to a 8800GT soon and post back results later!
    Yeah man It's a kind of habbit from ATI to make their products useless

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    • #3
      Fantastic plan! I've been pondering this myself, since the debacle that has been the last couple of driver releases.

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      • #4
        I just replaced my ATI 9600 XT with a GeForce 2 MX/MX 400, I had in an older computer. It's a much slower card 800 FPS in glxgears compared to 4500 FPS for the ATI 9600 XT.

        Compiz feels much smoother with this much slower and cheaper GeForce, and there are no white windows, no lag, no watermarks, no hard locks or other missing textures.

        Edit:
        Scrolling in firefox is much faster with the slower GeForce while Compiz is running, then with the 9600 XT.
        Last edited by Betel; 10-25-2007, 10:14 AM.

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        • #5
          The problem is with laptop owners: we are really having an hard time out there with ATI provided laptops. Changing the whole thing would cost money and selling the laptop as second hand still would be a waste of the 50/60% of its original value.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by lionheart View Post
            The problem is with laptop owners: we are really having an hard time out there with ATI provided laptops. Changing the whole thing would cost money and selling the laptop as second hand still would be a waste of the 50/60% of its original value.
            This is true. Unfortunately, you either keep waiting and HOPE that AMD gets it's act together quickly (don't hold your breath too long...) or you can bite the bullet and just switch over to another GPU. Yes, I know what that means- I bought my latest laptop specifically with this in mind.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Betel View Post
              I just replaced my ATI 9600 XT with a GeForce 2 MX/MX 400, I had in an older computer. It's a much slower card 800 FPS in glxgears compared to 4500 FPS for the ATI 9600 XT.

              Compiz feels much smoother with this much slower and cheaper GeForce, and there are no white windows, no lag, no watermarks, no hard locks or other missing textures.

              Edit:
              Scrolling in firefox is much faster with the slower GeForce while Compiz is running, then with the 9600 XT.
              Funny how a stable, efficient driver can make the world of difference, isn't it?

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              • #8
                Same here, I have a little crappy PC I built recently and taken to university lab for my research project. This computer has a GeForce FX 5200 GPU with 64-bit memory and Celeron-D 331. However the compiz desktop experience of this pc is far better than my home desktop pc, which has a All-In-Wonder X1900 and 3.5GHz Core 2 Duo. This embarrasses me a lot

                I've already given up the TV/DVB functionality of the AIW but ATI wants to take away more from the card: OpenGL under Xgl is completely useless as I do intensive GLSL researches and Xgl won't let me use GLSL at all
                Last edited by FunkyRider; 10-25-2007, 10:49 AM.

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                • #9
                  and what could be the equivalent to an ati mobility radeon hd 2400 ?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FunkyRider View Post
                    Well, after being screwed by ATI for several months
                    What's the problem?

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                    • #11
                      The drivers, of course!

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                      • #12
                        i'm not using fglrx and i'm definitely not going to spend more money on nvidia card. that's not the solution for me.

                        i mean, nvidia is not being too open [specs etc]. in that case ati is a clear winner for me in the long run. i can wait and help radeonhd devs any way i can. in the meantime i have my r300 with opensource driver that *just works*.

                        all i want from ati is to release all the remaining specs, as i already don't care about their blob.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by disturbedsaint View Post
                          What's the problem?
                          As someone else said; the drivers.

                          A lot of us (well, certainly me, and I know there are others on this forum) bought ATI cards on the basis that we'd been promised that the linux drivers would improve, become stable and generally that awesome would happen before the end of the year.
                          We're getting very close to the end of the year, and, for many of us, the "improvements" in the fglrx driver have been decidedly mixed, when they exist at all.
                          For X1950 users, especially those with the AGP cards, things have been particularly annoying.

                          It's my birthday this month. If ATI's present for me isn't an 8.43.x fglrx which is stable on my system, then my birthday present to myself will be an nVidia 8800 GT. At least nVidia talk to their clients and keep them informed of what they're doing...

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                          • #14
                            The drivers have inded improved. Its much better now and easier to install then yust a couple vesion back and the support gets better.

                            My biggest problem with Fglrx now is bad stability trough wine, but i believe that it will get better.

                            I surely noticed a boost going from 41 to 42
                            The quality is still not as good as Nvidia drivers , but they do inded close the gap fast


                            My card is a hd2600 pro

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by teroedni View Post
                              The drivers have inded improved. Its much better now and easier to install then yust a couple vesion back and the support gets better.

                              My biggest problem with Fglrx now is bad stability trough wine, but i believe that it will get better.
                              Indeed, this is a killer flaw for my use of graphics drivers. They have until the next version to fix this, as far as I'm concerned.

                              I surely noticed a boost going from 41 to 42
                              The quality is still not as good as Nvidia drivers , but they do inded close the gap fast


                              My card is a hd2600 pro
                              Well, that explains why you're enjoying them - HD owners seem to be getting the best out of the recent drivers...

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