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  • #46
    Hi,

    This is my first post as this is my first install of a linux distro.

    First thing first here's my config:

    Core 2 duo
    ATI x1600 pro
    Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy
    Dual screen

    When I first installed Gutsy I had to unplug one of my screens cause it was making my system crash all the time. At that time I was using the open source ati drivers that came with Gutsy. I downloaded fglrx 8.42 and used the following walkthroug

    I followed the guide line by line and it worked flawlessly for me... almost. I then installed compiz fusion and it did not work as I planned. No 3D at all. When I did compiz --replace in the console I got an error message telling me I had no white list. I then added that whitelist line in my compiz-management and it worked right away.

    I get about 4750 FPS with glxgears. My only problem is the constant flickers of the screen when I stream videos off the Internet or while playing games.

    My second screen worked after I installed fglrx 8.42 so Im running dual screens now.

    Hope this helps!!!

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    • #47
      Originally posted by oyvind View Post
      So, since I've been waiting like crazy for this release, I'll post a short summary of my experiences in a new thread. Please reply with your own experiences if you feel like it.. Perhaps in the same form as below:
      Hardware: ...
      Software: ...
      Experiences: Working/not working, better/worse than previous version, problems, etc. As concrete/detailed and non-ranting as possible (well, ranting must be tolerated when it comes to fglrx).

      Hardware:
      Lenovo Z61m laptop with an ATI X1400 Radeon mobility (128MB), Core Duo T2500 2GHz, 2GiB RAM.

      Software:
      Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10 x86 32bit, with all the latest updates applied (as of now).

      I've been using fglrx 8.42.3 for a couple of hours, installed using standard "--buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy", manually purging the old debs (8.40.4) before installing the new driver (just to be sure). I had no problems with the installation; libs, DRI-init and everything else worked.

      So the driver is working, but it's still a disappointment. But I'll focus on the positive side of things first:
      • Yup, it's now possible to start compiz, and AIGLX is present, at least.

      • OpenGL performance (_without_ running compiz) is improved !

      • Works better than 8.41.7, which I could not use on my hardware (that's OK, it wasn't officially supported on R500-class hardware, anyway).

      • AIGLX support isn't perfect yet, but it's the first release supporting it, so I'm having hopes that it will be vastly improved in later releases.

      That's about it.. Now for the negative stuff:
      • No working XVideo (!). If I enable any overlay type, I get screen corruption in the upper left corner, consistently, it's a couple of lines, about 25% of the screen width. Video tears diagonally and flickers badly. Disabling video-overlay and opengl-overlay removes the corruption. "TexturedVideo" "true" the same, no help there.

      • I can no longer use MPlayer with OpenGL output, it's remarkably slow, VSYNC settings have no effect on this (might be mplayer-specific problem, vlc and xine works fine w/ogl).

      • 2D is dog slow without the XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps option. However, this is only when all video-overlay options are disabled. If any video-overlay is enabled, I don't need XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps for decent 2D speed, but the corruption makes that config unusable (*sigh*).

      • Suspend is still not working, the symptoms are very much like those I had with 8.40.4. But this is rumoured to be because Ubuntu Gutsy uses a kernel with the new SLUB-allocator (replaced older SLAB-allocator), which apparently doesn't play well with fglrx on suspend (on my hardware, at least). Hoping this will get fixed in the next release..
      • Compiz is definitely accelerated, but too laggy to be usable. Scrolling in gnome-terminal or Firefox is a real PITA. Enabling any kind of video-overlay makes compiz hard-crash on load. Trying to display any video using plain OpenGL output (Xine, vlc) is just a flickering mess, video frame always on-top, with compiz enabled. MPlayer w/gl-output freezes X, if compiz is enabled (SysRQ possible). Tweaking OpenGL VSYNC in AMD control panel does not help in this case. fgl_glxgears segfaults with compiz, glxgears works.

      • I've observed the ancient/dreaded "[fglrx:firegl_lock] *ERROR* Process 7913 is using illegal context 0x00000005" error messages in the kernel log (but only once). Man, one would think they could get rid of these at some point ??

      • Still need to use AlwaysRestartServer=true in gdm.conf for stability.

      • Will have to complete yet another waiting cycle for 8.43, in hope that compiz and/or XVideo might some day work properly on this darned ATI-based lappy of mine, which is otherwise a very nice piece of hardware.

      That's about it for now, happy waiting for 8.43.X . Bye.
      Same Here,

      1. Screen disttortion in lower left
      2. xv no working
      3. AIGLX is not working because of a mesa bug

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Malikith View Post
        It seems alot of the problems appear to be coming from Ubuntu. That might be because of some wacky configuration it uses. It has nothing to do with Debian because I'm running Debian with it and it runs great.
        Nope. Running OpenSUSE 10.2 here (kernel 2.6.18.8-0.7 on Dell E1505 / X1400). I have the screen corruption issue in 2D (around mouse cursor and in LR corner), the segmentation faults in dual-head mode, and overall sluggish performance with compositing + AIGLX enabled. I have not had any issues so far with video (except that with AIGLX / Compositing, the video flickers and overlaps any window elements that get in the way, such as menus). I am not having issues with Mesa, but I had to manually move and re-link libGL.so to get the fglrx version to run. 3D performance has improved dramatically and I don't think the screen corruption errors are a set-up issue as many have reported it, running Ubuntu, Gentoo, Suse, and Red Hat. Now that Ati seems to have 3D performance sorted out, I hope the next priority is bug fixing in 2D, with the screen corruption issue at the top. Note: in searching through forums and looking at bug reports, I noticed that this issue has been around in one form or another for the past several releases (at least since 8.37, judging by Bugzilla), which would make sense, if AMD has focused on rewriting the OpenGL engine and left the X / 2D bits pretty much alone.

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        • #49
          Screen Corruption :-(

          I thought the screen corruption in the corner / around cursor issue was livable, but today it just kept coming back and coming back (I had IntelliJ open with two projects, KDESVN, Konquerer and Amarok). I've tried all of the server flag "solutions" posted here and all have been red herrings. I'm pretty sure I had my installation right, as I didn't experience any of the OpenGL issues others are complaining about, and AIGLX ran fine, albeit a little slow. I need this computer for work, so reverting to 8.36.5. Oh, well. Maybe next time...

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          • #50
            AMD Athlon 64 3000+
            ATi Radeon 9600XT Pro
            Kubuntu 7.10

            I installed the driver and everything was working great the first day.

            Then, a few days later, I decided to up my monitor's refresh rate up to 75Hz. I started getting odd garbled signal down in the lower right corner of the screen. Two bands of crap about half an inch wide and about the same distance apart, but they showed only rarely and a quick logout and login fixed it. Then I noticed i was getting some odd noise on certain websites, the main page of this forum was one of the worst, that looked like small blinking green or yellow pixels.

            I decided that it might have something to do with Composite or AIGLX and since I don't have Compiz or Bryl installed anymore I turned these options off in my xorg.conf file. Saved, logged out, and restarted X, and every thing looked fine again. Then the next day it reappeared, so I decided to change the refresh rate back to 60Hz and see if that helped. I tried changing it back in CCC. The program acted like the refresh rate had changed, but the screen never blanked and the issues were still there, also I could restart CCC later and it still reported refresh at 75Hz. Tried Kubuntu's monitor settings, same deal as CCC. I looked up the Horiz. and Vert. rates off of the manufacturer's website and added them manually to xorg.conf. Restarted X and CCC said 60Hz again.

            So basically, when I turn on the computer in the morning the monitor is set to 75Hz and I can't change it to anything else, however, a quick space added to xorg.conf, saved, removed again, and saved again, after restarting X again, monitor is automatically back at 60Hz and no noise on sites like this forum for the rest of the day. Very peculiar.

            Otherwise, much better experience than previous versions of fglrx.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by NobeyamaGP View Post
              AMD Athlon 64 3000+
              ATi Radeon 9600XT Pro
              Kubuntu 7.10

              I installed the driver and everything was working great the first day.

              Then, a few days later, I decided to up my monitor's refresh rate up to 75Hz. I started getting odd garbled signal down in the lower right corner of the screen. Two bands of crap about half an inch wide and about the same distance apart, but they showed only rarely and a quick logout and login fixed it. Then I noticed i was getting some odd noise on certain websites, the main page of this forum was one of the worst, that looked like small blinking green or yellow pixels.

              I decided that it might have something to do with Composite or AIGLX and since I don't have Compiz or Bryl installed anymore I turned these options off in my xorg.conf file. Saved, logged out, and restarted X, and every thing looked fine again. Then the next day it reappeared, so I decided to change the refresh rate back to 60Hz and see if that helped. I tried changing it back in CCC. The program acted like the refresh rate had changed, but the screen never blanked and the issues were still there, also I could restart CCC later and it still reported refresh at 75Hz. Tried Kubuntu's monitor settings, same deal as CCC. I looked up the Horiz. and Vert. rates off of the manufacturer's website and added them manually to xorg.conf. Restarted X and CCC said 60Hz again.

              So basically, when I turn on the computer in the morning the monitor is set to 75Hz and I can't change it to anything else, however, a quick space added to xorg.conf, saved, removed again, and saved again, after restarting X again, monitor is automatically back at 60Hz and no noise on sites like this forum for the rest of the day. Very peculiar.

              Otherwise, much better experience than previous versions of fglrx.
              A little update. I have discovered that simply logging out, restarting X, and logging back in of a morning fixes the refresh issue. No xorg.conf editing required.

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              • #52
                mouse not affected

                Just registered to reply; those bands are visible on my screen as well. It affects that lower right corner of my screen, though the mouse pointer actually moves over those bands. I'm using an ATI All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro on Gutsy.

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                • #53
                  Not perfect for sure but otherwise a good set of drivers. Much faster in opengl but in game gamma setting does NOT work. Had to disable vertex shaders in Wow also. Fair trade for the nice speed boost. Nice to have the improved ccc as well.

                  AMD x2 @ 2.9 x850pro 1gig Ocz ubuntu 7.10 is my sys specs.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Jethro View Post
                    Not perfect for sure but otherwise a good set of drivers. Much faster in opengl but in game gamma setting does NOT work. Had to disable vertex shaders in Wow also. Fair trade for the nice speed boost. Nice to have the improved ccc as well.

                    AMD x2 @ 2.9 x850pro 1gig Ocz ubuntu 7.10 is my sys specs.
                    Can you tell me how you disable Vertex Shaders in the Config.wtf file? And also, did it fix the login screen and sprite texture rendering issue?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by astor84 View Post
                      Can you tell me how you disable Vertex Shaders in the Config.wtf file? And also, did it fix the login screen and sprite texture rendering issue?

                      SET M2UseShaders "0"

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                      • #56
                        those creepy bands

                        Originally posted by geopgeop View Post
                        Just registered to reply; those bands are visible on my screen as well. It affects that lower right corner of my screen, though the mouse pointer actually moves over those bands. I'm using an ATI All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro on Gutsy.
                        get those bands too. But listen to this. I start CCC and click cancel and wolla the bands are gone.

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                        • #57
                          Regarding the LR corner (and mouse) corruption i had that too. As i was told by another user on this forum: make sure you have these lines in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
                          Code:
                          Option "HWCursor" "On"
                          Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
                          Option "RenderAccel" "true"
                          Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
                          Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
                          Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
                          Option "CapabilitiesEx" "0x00000000"
                          Option "no_accel" "no"
                          Option "mtrr" "off"
                          Option "KernelModuleParm" "locked-userpages=0"
                          Option "BlockSignalsOnLock" "on"
                          Option "UseFastTLS" "0"
                          I had most of them and adding the few i was missing completely solved.

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