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  • #31
    I don't think that AMD contacted CroTeam (they create Serious Sam 3) - and the changelog entry is definitey wrong.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bridgman View Post
      AFAIK that is all happening, although I think our dev rel program has a different name from NVidia's
      That is something, which makes me happy to hear.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by PsynoKhi0 View Post
        Yes, they should, HOWEVER there is a difference between caring about their customers' needs and bending over to accommodate every single nobody's whim.
        That's called "trade-offs".
        I wonder what trade-off resulted in the top of the line mobile gpu with amd's own "enduro" technology being unusable with more than one screen. That's basic functionality for being able to work with it. It's also very buggy when it comes to suspend and fan control or restarting X. Again, basic functionality of an expensive top of the line gpu using a technology amd themselves pushed.

        Originally posted by PsynoKhi0 View Post
        E.g. throwing in a random patch so basement dwellers can watch their favorite porn in full HD at the expense of workstation users who need stability to do their work on a GPU that cost them 10 grand a pop, is definitely not a way to conduct business.
        My consumer card obviously did not cost "10 grand" but I still think it would be nice to be able to use it for work. I don't even care that some important advertised features like dynamic switching don't work, but basic functionality should work.

        Originally posted by PsynoKhi0 View Post
        Though obviously that part might be hard to grasp from a "me, myself and my own little life" point of view...
        I am a consumer who bought a top of the line gpu and who is not able to use it properly. So I have been using intel only. "My own little life point of view" is that I would like to have a GPU that is able to render a 2d gui on two or three screens and suspends / restarts X reliably. If you think this is not reasonable then I have to ask you: Why should anyone buy products that don't work?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Kano View Post
          The drivers are so great that they do not even fix the issues mentioned in the changelog. I mean everybody can read:

          http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...13-2_beta.aspx

          "[369298 ]: Resolves a Serious Sam 3 launching and corruption issue with Ubuntu 12.04/12.10 and AMD Radeon™ HD 7000, 6000 Series GPU"

          First of all it also affects HD 5000 and there nothing was fixed - i dont have got HD 6000/7000, but i doubt it was fixed there - did anybody try? Second that driver requires that you do:
          Code:
          rm -rvf ~/.steam/root/SteamApps/common/Serious\ Sam\ 3/Temp/ShaderCache/
          In order to be able to start Serious Sam 3 at all...
          I had the same issue, same fix worked. Pretty sad. Let's try out beta 6 (a jump in 3 beta versions). I'm sure we'll be sorely disappointed.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by mibo View Post
            What graphics card do you use? Is the texture flickering of shadow areas gone?

            I stopped playing SS3 because with my 5850 and Catalyst 13.1 the flickering was so annoying.
            I have the same issue, but the following thread fixed it, sort of: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410...9854178994223/

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            • #36
              Haha, you found my hint in that thead that you should not use gfxRestart() in the level but directly after start (or via Alt+Enter twice) - otherwise the performance drops extremely.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
                I wonder what trade-off resulted in the top of the line mobile gpu with amd's own "enduro" technology being unusable with more than one screen. That's basic functionality for being able to work with it. It's also very buggy when it comes to suspend and fan control or restarting X. Again, basic functionality of an expensive top of the line gpu using a technology amd themselves pushed.


                My consumer card obviously did not cost "10 grand" but I still think it would be nice to be able to use it for work. I don't even care that some important advertised features like dynamic switching don't work, but basic functionality should work.


                I am a consumer who bought a top of the line gpu and who is not able to use it properly. So I have been using intel only. "My own little life point of view" is that I would like to have a GPU that is able to render a 2d gui on two or three screens and suspends / restarts X reliably. If you think this is not reasonable then I have to ask you: Why should anyone buy products that don't work?
                There is difference though: in your case, you have reasonable expectations about a product working as advertised (although I haven't checked how much AMD claim they have support for enduro under Linux).
                Go through my post again, put it into the context of the post I quoted and all the complaints before it, they're on a completely different level.
                Last edited by PsynoKhi0; 02-20-2013, 05:19 AM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Kano View Post
                  Haha, you found my hint in that thead that you should not use gfxRestart() in the level but directly after start (or via Alt+Enter twice) - otherwise the performance drops extremely.
                  lol, I also "found" it out yesterday night :-)

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                  • #39
                    Well, I'm not quite sure what to think about this driver. It still doesn't resolve one big problem for me: TF2 does run very well (I could get as high as 220+ fps) most time but I keep getting micro "lags" (with that I mean around 5 fps), like every 5 seconds for a VERY brief moment. But it still feels very strange to play TF2 like that.
                    While I do agree that Linux is not as important as Windows for gaming, Intel and nVidia have proven that some effort actually can help to fill that gap partially.

                    I wonder what graphic's cards the Steambox is going to utilize.
                    Last edited by Marentis; 02-20-2013, 10:07 AM.

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                    • #40
                      My guess is that you use Ubuntu with a swap partition. Try
                      Code:
                      sudo swapoff -a
                      If that helps put a # in front of your swap partition in the /etc/fstab.

                      I usually only use swap when i want to use suspend 2 disk on a laptop with only Linux on it (then with 512 mb or so more swap than integrated).

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Marentis View Post

                        I wonder what graphic's cards the Steambox is going to utilize.
                        If rumors are true, it will be the next gen Trinity mobile APU or some variant of it.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Kano View Post
                          My guess is that you use Ubuntu with a swap partition. Try
                          Code:
                          sudo swapoff -a
                          If that helps put a # in front of your swap partition in the /etc/fstab.

                          I usually only use swap when i want to use suspend 2 disk on a laptop with only Linux on it (then with 512 mb or so more swap than integrated).
                          Thanks for your help but I'm using Gentoo with no swap at all (16 GB RAM), I gave Ubuntu a shot (as Gentoo usually means that I could've messed up at any point) but it still was like that.
                          According to some google research it seems that some other people have the same problem, but I couldn't gather enough information to start bug hunting (could be something else in the system, too).
                          Last edited by Marentis; 02-21-2013, 04:22 AM.

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                          • #43
                            Well i dont think that using Ubuntu is best as it always runs with compiz... Ok, fullscreen they most likely turn composite off.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                              @vimuser
                              just curious but what distro do you use?
                              I am using Slackware 64 -current. This is a development version, I help with reporting bugs. This Slackware version comes with kernel 3.7 by default and I don't see why I should install a kernel that was released 9 months before, just because AMD developers are either lazy or incompetent. I also want to play games on that machine, but with the radeon driver this isn't fun, even SuperTuxKart begins to stutter when I activate antialiasing (and I don't buy a HD6870 to not use quality enhancement features).

                              In their eyes, you're like someone at a restaraunt who is complaining that your coffee is too hot.
                              Then their point of view is simply wrong, in their eyes I should be a customer that has already spend hundreds of Euros to buy their hardware that is now seriously pissed off by them and won't do that again.

                              Originally posted by PsynoKhi0 View Post
                              Yes, they should, HOWEVER there is a difference between caring about their customers' needs and bending over to accommodate every single nobody's whim.
                              That's called "trade-offs".
                              E.g. throwing in a random patch so basement dwellers can watch their favorite porn in full HD at the expense of workstation users who need stability to do their work on a GPU that cost them 10 grand a pop, is definitely not a way to conduct business.
                              Though obviously that part might be hard to grasp from a "me, myself and my own little life" point of view...
                              [sarcasm]Yeah, of course, those workstation users are of course using the latest kernel and the latest driver on their stable workstations and throwing in a patch that it makes it possible to compile the driver on the latest kernel (you know that it is possible to determine the kernel version at runtime?) will seriously affect their ability to work on their machines. [/sarcasm]
                              Please, come back to reality.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Kano View Post
                                Well i dont think that using Ubuntu is best as it always runs with compiz... Ok, fullscreen they most likely turn composite off.
                                I do agree, but as it's the "officially supported" distribution I thought it would be a nice way to outrule some factors.
                                But - as I said - I'm using Gentoo, starting TF2 on Ubuntu was just a test.

                                But now that you're mentioning it: while I tried different window managers (Xfwm, Openbox and Kwin) I never attempted to run TF2 in fullscreen mode as I'm not used to that anymore. I will try that one now and report back later, when I had a chance to get a deeper look into it.

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