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  • Originally posted by jackkerouac View Post
    Perhaps next time, less hype and more facts.
    Our tests are all facts. I used all of the hardware that was accessible to run these benchmarks and as the graphs show, there are clear performance improvements. I never told you that this would be a bug-free release or anything to that extent. I was reporting on the performance and everything I and others had reported. This remains truly a phenomenal release when it comes to the performance improvements. It's now possible to play Quake 4 or Quake Wars with hardware on previous drivers that would previously choke.
    Michael Larabel
    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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    • Originally posted by jackkerouac View Post
      I think next time, I am going to go somewhere else for my reviews on ATI releases, as this site obviously has some "fan-boy" issues. And instead of just saying "Okay, maybe we hyped this up a little too much," we get a lot of excuses and complaints about people complaining.
      A bold accusation for an user that just pops out of the aether.

      Originally posted by jackkerouac
      This driver doesn't work for the majority of people, it seems.
      Say what?

      Originally posted by jackkerouac
      The impression most people seemed to have gotten from this site's hype is that it would. There is no way to sugar coat that.

      Perhaps next time, less hype and more facts.
      The reason Michael gave us is at least plausible ("the driver is geared towards r600"), and I choose to believe him.

      The driver does show performance improvement, even though at the moment is not spectacular (NOTE: again, my benchmarks were done on Maximum Visual Quality at 1280x1024, it's only normal the improvement is not titanic).

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      • Originally posted by jackkerouac View Post
        Well, it doesn't work for me. I'm running in Ubuntu Feisty a X1650 Pro and my X won't start.
        Error messages, debuging info? Anything. How do you expect to get help if you don't include any of this?

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        • Originally posted by adamk View Post
          Except that, unless you've polled everyone who's installed 8.41, you can't honestly say that it doesn't work for the majority of people. Based on the complaints here, you may get that impression, but most people don't pop on-line to say something works... They pop on-line to bitch and moan when something doesn't work.
          Read this:

          And instead of just saying "Okay, maybe we hyped this up a little too much," we get a lot of excuses and complaints about people complaining.
          Our tests are all facts. I used all of the hardware that was accessible to run these benchmarks and as the graphs show, there are clear performance improvements. I never told you that this would be a bug-free release or anything to that extent. I was reporting on the performance and everything I and others had reported. This remains truly a phenomenal release when it comes to the performance improvements. It's now possible to play Quake 4 or Quake Wars with hardware on previous drivers that would previously choke.
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          A truly phenomenal relase? You've got to be kidding.
          Last edited by jackkerouac; 09-12-2007, 03:01 PM.

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          • Originally posted by adamk View Post
            A quick doom3 comparison with my X850XT...

            8.40.4, demo1, 45.7
            8.41.7, demo1, 55.6

            I'll try with my X1300 next.

            The driver does seem to install and run fine here.

            Adam
            With my X1300:

            8.40.4, demo1, 35.7
            8.41.7, demo1, 50.4

            These are all on medium settings, at 1024x768. No AA or AF.

            Adam

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            • Originally posted by jackkerouac View Post
              Read this:





              A truly phenomenal relase? You've got to be kidding.
              It is for the majority of users (see, I can pull statistics right out my ass like you).

              Adam

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              • Originally posted by Michael View Post
                It's now possible to play Quake 4 or Quake Wars with hardware on previous drivers that would previously choke.
                Am I the only one getting Ultra-Crappy visual quality* with Quake 4?

                * = almost as good as MDK's

                EDIT: am I the only one playing quake4?
                Last edited by Xipeos; 09-12-2007, 03:20 PM.

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                • Download the correct driver !!!

                  All you whiners, please download the correct driver @ http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html.
                  and choose youre correct graphics card.

                  You will see that if you don't own an ATI HD 2x00 series that you wont get 8.41 but 8.40 that works fine for the most of us. When, and only when we see 8.41 for the other cards can can start to complain.

                  It is completely normal that when using an incorrect driver you get unpredictable results.

                  I'm using a Mobility X700 with the AMD 8.37 (on kUbuntu), and everything that should work, works fine.
                  Nonetheless i'm looking out for the new driver esp. 8.42 for Compiz.

                  'BE the difference that makes a difference' - JEWEL
                  Last edited by zittergie; 09-12-2007, 03:06 PM. Reason: Url editing

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                  • A truly phenomenal relase? You've got to be kidding.
                    Read this:

                    With my X1300:

                    8.40.4, demo1, 35.7
                    8.41.7, demo1, 50.4

                    These are all on medium settings, at 1024x768. No AA or AF.
                    15fps from a driver, yes, thats phenomenal.

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                    • Originally posted by zittergie View Post
                      8.40 that works fine for the most of us.
                      No it doesn't. You just got used to it.

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                      • Originally posted by carpman View Post
                        15fps from a driver, yes, thats phenomenal.
                        It just shows how much worse (in terms of 3D performance) the older codebase was.

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                        • Originally posted by zittergie View Post
                          All you whiners, please download the correct driver @ http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html.
                          and choose youre correct graphics card.

                          You will see that if you don't own an ATI HD 2x00 series that you wont get 8.41 but 8.40 that works fine for the most of us. When, and only when we see 8.41 for the other cards can can start to complain.

                          It is completely normal that when using an incorrect driver you get unpredictable results.

                          I'm using a Mobility X700 with the AMD 8.37 (on kUbuntu), and everything that should work, works fine.
                          Nonetheless i'm looking out for the new driver esp. 8.42 for Compiz.

                          'BE the difference that makes a difference' - JEWEL
                          did you see my video few post back. Do you have any problems like that? Flickering with konqueror while file browsing?

                          For me it is same with 8.37 - 8.41

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                          • Originally posted by Stormking View Post
                            It just shows how much worse (in terms of 3D performance) the older codebase was.
                            Yes, it is a known issue. However, we have to accept, it is an improvement, finally...

                            EDIT: I no longer use ATI, so I am not defending ATI, just making a comment.
                            Last edited by lenrek; 09-12-2007, 03:16 PM.

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                            • Michael, any chance you could run the benchmarks from 8.41.6 on 8.41.7 (same hardware, etc.)? To my mind this would kill the "deceptive hype" complaint.

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                              • Originally posted by Stormking View Post
                                No it doesn't. You just got used to it.
                                Maybe that's why i'm using 8.37

                                I heard 8.40 had some issues with googleearth, and that's such a great timekiller.

                                Well, If video works fine, planetpinguinracer works fine and googleearth works fine, I'm quite happy.

                                I've read something about muped64 along the forums, long time that i used that emu. Will give that a try to see how 3d works out.

                                Anyway, this Ati X700 is way much better than my previous laptop that was a SIS760

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