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  • No joy here with my X1950XTX and Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10 - Tribe 5). Install runs to completion, but on reboot the screen refresh is not correct and resists resetting. I either get a skewed presentation and the images are all repeated about four times across the width of the display or Gutsy dumps me into the failsafe settings screen, but that wont let me correct the monitor config nor will it allow selection of the FGLRX driver.

    You say there is a problem with Xorg 7.3?

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    • Working here on Mandriva 2007.1 32 bit Mandriva's rpm script is broken but the ati installer worked fine.glxgears went from 3k to over 8k fgl_glxgears went from 1300 to 1800.

      Fonts look much crisper, UT2K4 i is smoother faster and looks great... haven't had a chance to do much else tonite.

      Nice job ATI.. Congrats M Tippet and co !
      Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
      Ben Franklin 1755

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      • Can someone post an xorg.conf that actually works? I'm still stuck at a black screen when I let aticonfig --initial set up my xorg.conf.

        I wish it were as simple as envy -g :'(

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        • Originally posted by mjordan View Post
          Can someone post an xorg.conf that actually works? I'm still stuck at a black screen when I let aticonfig --initial set up my xorg.conf.

          I wish it were as simple as envy -g :'(
          Here's mine. It might not be the best one, but it works (for me, I assume it depends on your xorg version).

          Code:
          # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display
          
          Section "ServerLayout"
          	Identifier     "single head configuration"
          	Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
          	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Files"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Module"
          	Load  "dbe"
          	Load  "fbdevhw"
          	Load  "record"
          	Load  "freetype"
          	Load  "type1"
          	Load  "dri"
          	Load  "glx"
          	Load  "extmod"
          EndSection
          
          Section "InputDevice"
          	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
          	Driver      "kbd"
          	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc105"
          	Option	    "XkbLayout" "fi"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Monitor"
          	Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
          	Option	    "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
          	Option	    "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
          	Option	    "DPMS" "true"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Device"
          	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]"
          	Driver      "fglrx"
          	Option	    "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
          	Option	    "UseInternalAGPGART" "yes"
          	Option	    "VideoOverlay" "on"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Screen"
          	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
          	Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]"
          	Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
          	DefaultDepth     24
          	SubSection "Display"
          		Viewport   0 0
          		Depth     24
          		Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
          	EndSubSection
          EndSection
          
          Section "DRI"
          	Group        0
          	Mode         0666
          EndSection
          
          Section "Extensions"
          	Option	    "Composite" "Disable"
          EndSection

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          • Hmm, well I give up.. I'm running Xorg 7.2 so that's not the issue... just can't get past the black screen..... guess I'll go back to VESA for now.

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            • Tried the new driver on Kubuntu 7.04 (Xorg 7.2) with the X1950XTX. Install proceeded to completion, X started, initial impression is quite good.

              The KDE control panel lists the loaded driver as ATI Radeon fbdev. There is an entry for ATI Radeon fglrx, but selecting that results in the blinking cursor of indecision when I restart X. Correcting that required the ritual "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" dance, and that got me back to the ATI Radeon fbdev driver. The ATI Catylist Control Center, OTHO, says driver version 8.41.7. Is fbdev in fact the correct driver?

              Checking the configuration with fglrxinfo returned the following error:

              fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
              In fact, trying any GL related action returned that error. There is a /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 on the system and making a symlink with that to the missing file takes care of that.

              Fglrxinfo says:
              display: :0.0 screen: 0
              OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
              OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1950 Series
              OpenGL version string: 2.0.6849 Release
              The not-a-benchmark glxgears looses about 1000 fps from the 8.37 drivers (from 11500 to 10500), but I haven't restarted X, yet. What's the routine with the gears inside the spinning cube?
              Last edited by rbmorse; 09-13-2007, 12:55 AM.

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              • *Sigh*

                I haven't even downloaded and already the tomato throwing has started. I'll probably try it soon though the drive to test it isn't as it was.

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                • Originally posted by rbmorse View Post
                  Tried the new driver on Kubuntu 7.04 (Xorg 7.2) with the X1950XTX. Install proceeded to completion, X started, initial impression is quite good.

                  The KDE control panel lists the loaded driver as ATI Radeon fbdev. There is an entry for ATI Radeon fglrx, but selecting that results in the blinking cursor of indecision when I restart X. Correcting that required the ritual "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" dance, and that got me back to the ATI Radeon fbdev driver. The ATI Catylist Control Center, OTHO, says driver version 8.41.7. Is fbdev in fact the correct driver?

                  Checking the configuration with fglrxinfo returned the following error:



                  In fact, trying any GL related action returned that error. There is a /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 on the system and making a symlink with that to the missing file takes care of that.

                  Fglrxinfo says:

                  The not-a-benchmark glxgears looses about 1000 fps from the 8.37 drivers (from 11500 to 10500), but I haven't restarted X, yet. What's the routine with the gears inside the spinning cube?
                  Hmmm... Does your xorg.conf actually have the driver listed as fbdev? Thats interesting.

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                  • xorg.conf says "fglrx" like it should. Yes, this is interesting. The problem could be KDE's though.

                    A couple of days ago I posted a note indicating that if AMD/ATI was smart they would release this driver as a "beta" version. It sure feels like one.

                    The other problem I noted is one someone else reported...closing an openGL window leaves an artifact...the window. Switching to term and back clears the error.

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                    • Yeah and if anyone wants to try and help me figure out my issue, which I doubt, I'll probably have to wait until 8.42, check out my Xorg.0.log:

                      My Xorg log

                      If you have any ideas, feel free to suggest.

                      Just so you know, 8.40 does work.
                      Last edited by Malikith; 09-13-2007, 01:54 AM.

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                      • Not my cup of tea for my mobility radeon. I guess I'll wait for next month's.

                        And just for the recored, I bought my laptop without Windows installed on it, some barebones have that option

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                        • Originally posted by opera View Post
                          Oh, so a game gets a few more FPS, and that makes it great? Wow. Obviously doesn't take much to satisfy some.

                          For others, we think that a few more serious bugs needs to be solved, and I predicted them not to have been, and I was right. Unfortunately.
                          I'm glad you're happy with ATI's amazing progress though.
                          Just one question opera: Have you ever developed a complex program that does a lot of processing (or just any program in C or a C like language)? It needn't be a driver, be a hardware-software interface of any kind but a program which is performance critical and huge.

                          If you've worked in a project like these, I think you'll have that sense of appreciation. Especially in the arena of "extremely programmable hardware".

                          Since AMD bought ATI, things have changed. They are trying to give a seamless rebirth to a new driver generation without breaking the support. Things would be simpler if they said: "Wait 1 year without any driver and you'll see the miracle" but at least they've "tried" to support new cards and things.

                          I'm a computer engineer. I'm a fetishist about processors and hardware. I know what takes to program these (taking notes to papers, converting registry values, sometimes debugging assembly crypts). And I use these guys cards since nVidia was not able to make gauraud shading and smoothing in hardware.

                          ATI is a huge company which has some fair share in customized simulator graphics, mutli-head 2D graphics (Their creepy 9000 chip can do 16 heads if required!) and such. So it was their fault not to support linux but with AMD it has changed.

                          Yes I have some weird and annoying bugs too. I was using my card with vesa for 8 months but with 8.41 things started to change. I'm not hopeless about ATI. They have opened their spex too. It's equally important as 8.41 drivers.

                          OTOH, It's important to say that ATI's creepy driver is far better in hotplugging hardware and screen detection than nVidia.

                          So opera, give the guys some respect and credit. Your lovely nVidia guys have an annoying locking-up bug in their latest drivers and they didn't fixed it for 80 days. c'mon!

                          Instead pf provocating the board, please shut up. Already nobody listening to you but, I was unable to resist to write this post!.

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                          • Originally posted by sundown
                            And just for the recored, I bought my laptop without Windows installed on it, some barebones have that option
                            Where did you get it? I'm currently hunting for a laptop without an OS or preferrably with Linux preloaded. I looked at
                            Empreror Linux, but bringing one of those babies down here is as costly as a MacBook... Pro (quite pricey), and that for a Toucan T61 model, but with customs and other taxes, plus shipping and handling it is virtually twice the price.
                            Last edited by Thetargos; 09-13-2007, 03:04 AM.

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                            • Okey i hope to stay as objective as possible in this post (going to be hard because i am biased in some way... actually who the hell isn't biased when it comes to linux and amd/ati?)!

                              First of all i think almost all of the users do respect your effords Michael. You test every release and well write reviews about it. I don't know if ATI/AMD are so happy about it but probably they weren't with this months review. The only problem you have Michael is to be objective (again i do understand it). In your 8.41 review you said:

                              ...
                              While the 8.41 release is designed for the R600 series, in our tests with the R300 through R500 series the driver has worked out quite well. There have been some corruption issues and other minor problems but nothing severe.
                              ...
                              So you did mention that this release is primarily for the r600-series but you said that there were MINOR problems and NOTHING severe on the older cards when you tested the driver. From what i've read in this forums there are BIG problems with this drivers on the older generation cards. Again i do understand that you can't test every single card with an ATI-chip but still when you read the review you get the impression that it the new driver WILL work on older cards and you WILL get the promised huge performance boost. That's why alot of ppl (including myself i have to admit) got so excited about it and that's why we are so disappointed now after we had to remark that it's not as it was promised it would be.

                              As the only real deal i need the vid-card for in linux (at the moment... in the future it would be cool to have desktop-effects with aiglx/compiz-fusion too...) is watching movies (for playing games i still use good old windows) and i read that xv is still broken (on some cards and i'm one of the lucky ppl who seems to own such a card...) i probably won't try this release (maybe i get bored and tell myself that i can use some kind of adventure and still try it out who knows... )

                              Once again i do understand that you can't test everything but from a reviewer i do expect some kind of unbiased/objective view of things when he or she reviews something (still i do understand that this is almost impossible as everybody has some kind of personal opinion which affects things... when i would write a ati-linux-driver review it would possibly be alot more skeptical as yours are because of the experiences i made with linux and ati-cards...)

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                              • Originally posted by spielc View Post
                                As the only real deal i need the vid-card for in linux (at the moment... in the future it would be cool to have desktop-effects with aiglx/compiz-fusion too...) is watching movies (for playing games i still use good old windows) and i read that xv is still broken (on some cards and i'm one of the lucky ppl who seems to own such a card...) i probably won't try this release (maybe i get bored and tell myself that i can use some kind of adventure and still try it out who knows... )
                                Yeah, and maybe you'll be luckier than me, I didn't even get far enough to try it, it simply doesn't work. I hope AMD/ATI can fix that AGP bus issue too (fglrx detecting my agp card as pcie), because from the looks of the xorg log, it still exists in 8.41:

                                Code:
                                (II) Loading sub module "fglrxdrm"
                                (II) LoadModule: "fglrxdrm"
                                (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
                                (II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
                                	compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.41.7
                                	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
                                (--) fglrx(0): VideoRAM: 262144 kByte, Type: DDR3
                                (II) fglrx(0): PCIE card detected
                                It should say something like this instead, but i've never in the history of fglrx using this card, have seen it:

                                Code:
                                (II) Loading sub module "fglrxdrm"
                                (II) LoadModule: "fglrxdrm"
                                (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
                                (II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
                                	compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.41.7
                                	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
                                (--) fglrx(0): VideoRAM: 262144 kByte, Type: DDR3
                                (II) fglrx(0): AGP card detected
                                Last edited by Malikith; 09-13-2007, 05:20 AM.

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