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  • #16
    Originally posted by remjg View Post
    I didn't know Chakra Linux but it's not relevant to me since it's using KDE.

    I used to install the proprietary driver from the live CD and try it. But on Ubuntu 12.04 live, after installing the proprietary driver and gnome shell, there is no easy way (graphical way) to log out in order to try gnome shell.
    I have HD 6470M on my laptop that I currently use, with Catalyst 12.8 driver on Ubuntu 12.04 (downloaded this 12.9 too, but I'd rather wait for the "real" one, as this seems to not be a final version ..). Gnome shell(3.4.1), Unity (5.16.0) and KDE (4.9.0, through Kubuntu Backports ppa) seem to not have much(if any significant) problems with it .. It's more than usable ..
    I occasionally had some suspend/resume problems, but I seem to have had the same ones on Windows OEM install I used to have and on the new "not so legit" one, so I can't blame Catalyst(not the Linux version at least, if both Windows and Linux have it xD ..).

    If this helps you ..
    I haven't had as much of a bad experience with Catalyst as I'd expect from what I've heard .. But certainly not as good as it could be or what I hear it could be from others with NVIDIA(my limited testing on my older NVIDIA laptop agrees ...). And I did need a couple tweaks to use correct power management and have low temps .. But now it's probably better than on the default Windows install there was ..

    I didn't have the best experience with the open driver .. Mostly power management(and overheating ..) .. But at least didn't have some glitches that I had with Catalyst(no lags on Gnome Shell or excessive CPU usage and overheating, which was fixed in Catalyst 12.6 I think, but cairo-dock still flickers and stuff on OpenGL mode with Catalyst .. xD )

    Actually instead of straight Ubuntu I had installed Ultimate Edition 3.4, but it's basically Ubuntu 12.04 with a ton of ppa's, programs, themes and tweaks .. And I pretty much reverted it to basic Ubuntu and purged most ppa's(later added my own though ..) at some point(didn't want to reinstall ..). I've done some testing on others though as well.

    That's pretty much my feedback with Catalyst. I've used it on Arch Linux(at the state updates were January to July), Ubuntu( 12.04 ), Chakra ( updated from July onwards ), Fedora ( 17 ) and probably a couple other I forgot already ... But I should say that only on Ubuntu I could get power usage to be how it should be.
    And KDE is pretty nice, the most complete DE in my opinion (just uses 100-200 megs more ram than some lighter ones and starts a bit slower.. no flaw I can find othen than that). Don't shun it like that .. :P

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    • #17
      The good news fom other side. Is that the PRIME in quantal+xorgedgers ppa is working well in AMD open source drivers.

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      • #18
        Thank you for your feedback Rigaldo ! So you're telling me that Catalyst from 12.6 should be fine (no glitches/artefacts with gnome shell)... The thing is that I think that I can't use it on HD3000 or HD4000 hardware anymore from this release. I've broken my system so many times in the past using fglrx that I'm scared to try it anymore :-D

        Originally posted by Rigaldo View Post
        And KDE is pretty nice, the most complete DE in my opinion (just uses 100-200 megs more ram than some lighter ones and starts a bit slower.. no flaw I can find othen than that). Don't shun it like that .. :P
        Actually, I've tried KDE yesterday for the first time in almost 8 years : I can confirm that it's a beautiful desktop environment, clean and polished with great apps. Anyway, I'v always liked the gnome philosophy and even if the KDE environment used to be more complete, I never changed my mind ;-)
        Last edited by remjg; 09-15-2012, 03:50 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by bridgman View Post
          At first glance it sounds as if the driver might be configured to support only the embedded SKUs.
          It works with my RadeonHD 5670. It gave me the unsupported hardware watermark, but I got rid of that.

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          • #20
            Seems to work better than 12.8 did under kwin with direct rendering. The animations are much smoother.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by remjg View Post
              Thank you for your feedback Rigaldo ! So you're telling me that Catalyst from 12.6 should be fine (no glitches/artefacts with gnome shell)... The thing is that I think that I can't use it on HD3000 or HD4000 hardware anymore from this release. I've broken my system so many times in the past using fglrx that I'm scared to try it anymore :-D


              Actually, I've tried KDE yesterday for the first time in almost 8 years : I can confirm that it's a beautiful desktop environment, clean and polished with great apps. Anyway, I'v always liked the gnome philosophy and even if the KDE environment used to be more complete, I never changed my mind ;-)

              I don't know which distro you use to tell you more specifically. But if you have and HD2xxx-4xxx Radeon card, 12.4 was the last to support it, but there is the legacy 12.6 driver too(exzclusively for this unsupported hardware) which I'd suggest you use ( also supports xorg 1.12 ). I didn't have any artifacts for sure from 12.4 onwards, but from 12.6 it was better and fixes for Gnome Shell were in the changelog

              Hope it works well for you if you try it. I think it would.

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              • #22
                I stand corrected:
                https://github.com/FernetMenta/xbmc/...ce14afd59fb04f

                fglrx 12.9 showed us a major bug, hehe.

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                • #23
                  This Catalyst 12.9 works on desktop and notebook graphics cards? I don't want install soft if working only embedded devices.
                  Can I run this on my desktop?

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                  • #24
                    I installed it on my Fusion Hardware. It works on E350 and on E450. Normally I don't install that kind of unreleased stuff, but i feared that wenn all the 12.10 guys come with a 9.0.0 release and our xvba implementation lacks support - that will give a huge problem - so I installed the embedded version.

                    For what i heared: Ubuntu 12.10 will include a 9.0.0 release. But I don't know any details. Only have contact to some very helpful beta MailingList Readers, that sometimes test xvba code, that helps us a lot.

                    One important thing within the 9.0.0 Embedded driver is a new XVBA version:

                    From the log:
                    Code:
                    T:179938115190272 NOTICE: XVBA::CreateContext - opening xvba version: 77

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                    • #25
                      Well same goes with me as with others here I got a "Your graphics adapter is not supported by this driver. Installation will not proceed".
                      Radeon HD 5850 here. I saw also in past posts that it didn't support HD 6000 too. Exactly for which cards is this thing went released??

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                      • #26
                        Replace the /etc/ati/control file with an older one.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kano View Post
                          Replace the /etc/ati/control file with an older one.
                          Excuse me??

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                          • #28
                            Ah you mean at the temporary folder that is generated when you run the installer... Yeah I found it under /common/etc/ati. But now I have to download fglrx 12.8 also... Damn AMD...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by djdoo View Post
                              Well same goes with me as with others here I got a "Your graphics adapter is not supported by this driver. Installation will not proceed".
                              Radeon HD 5850 here. I saw also in past posts that it didn't support HD 6000 too. Exactly for which cards is this thing went released??
                              That's the whole thing: it's not been officially released. Better wait for the file to appear on the usual download page on AMD's website.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by PsynoKhi0 View Post
                                That's the whole thing: it's not been officially released. Better wait for the file to appear on the usual download page on AMD's website.
                                Following Kano's workaround I finally installed it. Works nice, I see amdcccle reports 2D driver version 9.0.2, openGL 4.2.11903. No new options at amdcccle.
                                OpenSUSE 12.2 here with stock Kernel 3.4.6, stock Xserver 1.12.3 and stock(updated) KDE 4.8.5.
                                I think openGL ES 2.0 is disabled by blacklisting fglrx at kwin for KDE version prior 4.9... Does anyone know how to force the procedure??

                                XVBA works via VAAPI mod through VLC output:
                                Code:
                                libva: VA-API version 0.33.0
                                libva: User requested driver 'fglrx'
                                libva: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_drv_video.so
                                libva: Found init function __vaDriverInit_0_32
                                libva: va_openDriver() returns 0
                                xvba_video: XVBA_GetSurface(): status 2
                                [0x7f8d38c6dba8] avcodec decoder: Using VA API version 0.33 for hardware decoding.
                                [h264 @ 0x7f8d38002a60] Cannot parallelize deblocking type 1, decoding such frames in sequential order
                                Let's see if it works under Xserver 1.13...


                                For reference I have Shadow Primary enabled with no problems. KDE runs smooth for now.

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