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  • AMD Linux Catalyst: Hardware Owners Screwed?

    Phoronix: AMD Linux Catalyst: Hardware Owners Screwed?

    Word is breaking today on the Windows-focused web-sites that AMD's Catalyst driver program has fundamentally changed. How does this impact Linux Catalyst users? Unfortunately, it will likely prove to be in a bad way...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTExMTA

  • #2
    Really... those close source drivers which Linus T. tolerates start to be a pain for everybody. Really. We need ultra high performance GNU GPL drivers for Linux and for *GOOD*. The DRM(BSD)/Mesa(MIT) is turning into a giga-kludge... what a mess, I don't perdict an happy ending, I'm scared.

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    • #3
      Waiting for uid313 clever comment.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RussianNeuroMancer View Post
        Waiting for uid313 clever comment.
        I'm waiting for a quote, link, _anything_ to back up some of the claims in the (blog) post.

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        • #5
          Wow, this sounds really bad!

          I am glad that I don't own any AMD graphics card.
          I've actually been curious about getting AMD due to them providing documentation to open source developers, but have been hesitant to do so because AMD on Linux is too buggy and the fgrlx is not updated with new X.org releases.

          But this news just make it all worse. I won't buy from AMD anything, neither CPU or GPU.

          I currently use Nvidia and it works great. But in the future, I won't buy AMD or Nvidia, in the future I will be Intel CPU with integrated graphics because its cheaper to not buy graphics card and the Intel graphics performance is "good enough" even for some gaming.

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          • #6
            You might want to wait for an actual announcement. I think you will find that the changes are in line with what folks here have been requesting / suggesting.

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            • #7
              /sigh

              I am going to have to keep an eye on this for sure. I run a Q6600 with a Radeon 3870. I am running F17 right now on the open drivers and for basic desktop stuff it is ok. For gaming not so much. I truly wish those "Open Source" drivers everyone kept screaming about would materialize soonish. It would seem "We have 2D up and running that is all I care about screw everyone else", this is a bunch of whoooey!

              What if I wanted to do some Blender? Oh right, go get myself an Nvidia...period.. Well, it has been a while, but I suppose it may be time to go Nvidia again soonish. Kind of leaning towards Intel for my next upgrade CPU as well, instead of AMD. Getting tired of waiting on AMD to "Get it done". Intel seems to be getting with the program these days with Linux.

              What I really would like to see is a good ARM 15 "desktop-ish" type system. I would grab one for word processing / internet stuff in a N.Y.-Minute!

              Edit: @bridgman - Thank you for clarifying sir. I will keep an eye out.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                You might want to wait for an actual announcement. I think you will find that the changes are in line with what folks here have been requesting / suggesting.
                Where will such an announcement be placed?

                Can it get more actual than a news on Phoronix?

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                • #9
                  - AMD has internally reaffirmed at this point they don't plan to support newer versions of the X.Org Server or the Linux kernel with the dropped R600/700 series support.
                  And with this AMD died for me for many years. Great Job!

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                  • #10
                    Great,just great .I was hopping to get at least another AMD hd4870 card for crossfire but now i dont even care.I always tried to distanced myself from these rage trains but this is just too much! AMD you fcked up!

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                    • #11
                      I dont know where all the negativity is coming from. Seems to me they are adopting a model that is similar to that of Nvidia at least for the windows releases. Which should mean less driver releases but also more meaningful changes with each update. And hopefully on the Linux this also means beta drivers with new kernel/x.org support shortly after those get updated. The only bummer is the lack of support for somewhat recent hardware. AMD really needs to start a proper legacy driver program, but at least those cards should work relatively well with the OSS driver.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by entropy View Post
                        Can it get more actual than a news on Phoronix?
                        Yeah, I guess that's true

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                        • #13
                          http://www2.ati.com/drivers/hotfix/c...x86.x86_64.zip

                          12.6

                          edit.

                          Instaling them right now, lets see if they work with my HD4850.

                          edit2.

                          Well, they do not work with my HD4850. Buing nvidia next time.
                          Last edited by yaji; 05-31-2012, 03:56 PM.

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                          • #14
                            calm down people, IF this ever happens, than not earlier than 2015 (remember the Source engine storyline...and that is still not over).

                            @Bridgman could you get into some detail on what is going on? Your first post in this thread reads like there is something happening, but not nearly as bad as Michael tries to show it
                            Last edited by Detructor; 05-31-2012, 03:41 PM.

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                            • #15
                              As a former PC gamer turned Ubuntu user, I put my Llano hardware on craigslist and went with a Core i3 build, as Intel offered a superior experience all around. It truly is an odd day when Intel's graphics support exceeds that of a company that produces high-end graphics hardware.

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