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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    At least you can use vaapi with Intel. You can understand that move because AMD really needs to save money as they lost 590 mio $ only in q1/12. They should at least sell some fast cpus, faster than the current fx joke cpus made for gamers...
    If you read the announcement, it was 92 mil $ profit if it weren't for a one-off payment to GF.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by chrisr View Post
      The Open Source drivers may not have all the benchmark performance, but in my experience they have a stability and consistency that fglrx could never achieve in its darkest dreams.
      If this was the case i would not complain at all, but i would enjoy it with all my soul! But this is not as Michael said: the powersave if very far from optimal (and it is static, not dynamic! you have to choose if you want to burn more power and to heat your card or to have bad performances), the feature set is not on par. Even the simple desktop composite is not very smooth for me.

      But you are right on what you say on fglrx. It lags behind and it is less stable, but to be honest, in the real life when i have to use my pc I can live far better with fglrx then with radeon. Of course YMMV.

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      • #18
        How can you make catalyst 12.3 works on ubuntu precise?

        I recieved this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...er/+bug/983580

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Hirager View Post
          What a timing. Right now I am close to buying HD 4890. I am not that much worried because from the start I intend to use the free driver. Hopefully this event will accelerate the pace of development for the driver.
          Any particular reason you want that card? I noticed that with the open source drivers, cards within the same series tend to have roughly the same performance. If I were you I'd get something like a HD4550.



          Overall I think its a little too soon for AMD to make a call like this. I understand the point of it (separating DX10 from DX11 cards) but in that case they should've gone with a new naming scheme and drop the HD part. I don't own HD4xxx hardware but that was the first good series ATI/AMD made in a long time and is still offers plenty of speed for today's games.

          Considering the HD5xxx and HD6xxx series are barely any different from each other, that pretty much means AMD is working on 2 chipsets. If they continue to at least update the older chips then fine, but I just think its too soon to drop the HD4xxx series.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DINAMIK View Post
            How can you make catalyst 12.3 works on ubuntu precise?
            I recieved this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...er/+bug/983580
            Your bugreport about 12.4 pre-release build, not about 12.3.

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            • #21
              They drop support without offering an open UVD solution. Very bad

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              • #22
                Originally posted by RussianNeuroMancer View Post
                Your bugreport about 12.4 pre-release build, not about 12.3.
                (I was added to that report because my bug was detected as duplicated)
                I have tried both ways. by manual install (following the oneiric instructions here http://wiki.cchtml.com) and by jockey. Same results

                I noticed that precise instructions are revealed in that page. I will try it today. there are changes inside.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
                  They drop support without offering an open UVD solution. Very bad
                  Christian is quiet from long time now, I hope he jump with h264 shader decoder soon for VDPAU.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Drago View Post
                    Christian is quiet from long time now, I hope he jump with h264 shader decoder soon for VDPAU.
                    I've been really impressed with the r600g vdpau support - it's nearly there and works great on my on Phenom 2 IGP machine

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                    • #25
                      so what?

                      the open source driver is coming alon nicely

                      and

                      nobody forces you to update X or kernel. And seriously, most desktop users hardly ever need to.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                        Any particular reason you want that card? I noticed that with the open source drivers, cards within the same series tend to have roughly the same performance. If I were you I'd get something like a HD4550.
                        I am a student with small budget. For me, this is an investment. With every update of graphic stack the card will gain more performance. It has the highest difference of nominal and true performance, but will gain most, too. I would have bought a HD 5 series top card, if it were cheaper. but the difference of price is too high. I just can't afford one.

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                        • #27
                          You can throw your money out of the window with the same result. I am not fully satisfied with intel oss drivers, but at least vaapi works there. Why would somebody buy a NEW dedicated card that is already consided legacy? I would not even spend a cent on an amd card - the drivers are just too bad. At least i only needed to get some new cf bridges to test, the cards itself i got for free. Basically hd 5 series works with oss as well, for hdmi audio you need kernel 3.3. But compared to nvidia where you also can use nouveau i see absolutely NOTHING that is better for pure linux users. If you only have got low linux driver expectations and play your games with win then you can buy amd (but you would never buy a dx10 card for win, thats not logical).

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                          • #28
                            The support will live on in a legacy branch of Catalyst, but that branch for Linux users will not be updated with new X.Org Server and Linux kernel support.
                            Gosh, when did they start supporting latest xorg and kernels?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by energyman View Post
                              nobody forces you to update X or kernel. And seriously, most desktop users hardly ever need to.
                              Nice point - Ubuntu 12.04 LTS have five years support by the way. More than enough to wait for UVD support in R600g.

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                              • #30
                                I'm not that worried as I plan to buy an HD7870 when they hit the discount range. I currently own a HD3870 in my main system. Any longer and it wont be worth using for 3D games as it's way too slow. I may have been tempted to buy early but the drivers are still green.
                                Last edited by e8hffff; 04-20-2012, 11:42 AM.

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