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  • #16
    Originally posted by LinuxID10T View Post
    Dude, you just sound like an a$$hat who doesn't know $hit. If you want to troll some people go post pictures of animal abuse on 4chan or something
    I think someone does still use Lindows.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DaemonFC View Post
      I think someone does still use Lindows.
      Nah, I personally just hate it when people remove legacy support too soon. Personally, I am still pissed that the X devs are removing all non KMS drivers. I figure it takes maybe one person to maintain, and everyone with a legacy card can be happy. Hell, if you think an old card is slow, how about the *CPU* on that old computer... XD

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      • #18
        Originally posted by LinuxID10T View Post
        Nah, I personally just hate it when people remove legacy support too soon. Personally, I am still pissed that the X devs are removing all non KMS drivers. I figure it takes maybe one person to maintain, and everyone with a legacy card can be happy. Hell, if you think an old card is slow, how about the *CPU* on that old computer... XD
        They haven't ditched UMS drivers completely, Intel still uses UMS on some of their hardware which is ridiculous. (If Voodoo cards from 1998 can use KMS, why can't Intel cards that are only a few years old?). But that's Intel for you.

        Even Fedora 17 still supports Intel UMS crap.

        Aside from that? Why is it too soon to start talking about removing support for ancient legacy distributions that are so old, they date back to when Bush hadn't spent the US into poverty?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DaemonFC View Post
          They haven't ditched UMS drivers completely, Intel still uses UMS on some of their hardware which is ridiculous. (If Voodoo cards from 1998 can use KMS, why can't Intel cards that are only a few years old?). But that's Intel for you.

          Even Fedora 17 still supports Intel UMS crap.

          Aside from that? Why is it too soon to start talking about removing support for ancient legacy distributions that are so old, they date back to when Bush hadn't spent the US into poverty?
          Because what Bridgman said. There are still plenty of PC's with old distributions. Companies will run computers until they don't work anymore. Hell, about a year ago, the Lowes in my area was running PCs with what looked like Red Hat 7. Another good example (not linux but you get the point) is Windows XP. Companies still use it despite the fact that it is over a decade old. As for why it is a pain with the drivers, some people have older graphics cards. I personally am still steaming pretty good from them removing pre-r400 support. The darn parts weren't even 5 years old yet when they did that.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by LinuxID10T View Post
            Because what Bridgman said. There are still plenty of PC's with old distributions. Companies will run computers until they don't work anymore. Hell, about a year ago, the Lowes in my area was running PCs with what looked like Red Hat 7. Another good example (not linux but you get the point) is Windows XP. Companies still use it despite the fact that it is over a decade old. As for why it is a pain with the drivers, some people have older graphics cards. I personally am still steaming pretty good from them removing pre-r400 support. The darn parts weren't even 5 years old yet when they did that.
            I don't see why AMD should support Linux distributions that have been out of business for many years or abandoned by the people who made them.

            They don't support Windows 98? Why do they support Lindows? BTW, I doubt anyone is using Lindows (Also known as Linspire, but AMD still refers to it by its name from 2002), since their repositories have been down since around 4 years ago.

            Edit: Come to think of it, they ditched their X.org Server binary interfaces for everything older than X.org Server, like 1.4(?) last year anyway, so it wouldn't even work on some of the distributions they mention in the documentation anyway.
            Last edited by DaemonFC; 03-24-2012, 12:07 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by LinuxID10T View Post
              Personally, I am still pissed that the X devs are removing all non KMS drivers.
              They are? That would be news to me. Can you share a link?

              If you mean the removal of DRI1 drivers, that's different. But you can compile them from the mesa 7.11 source and they will work with later mesa versions: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...ch/019628.html

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              • #22
                My understanding was "removing DRI1 drivers", which basically means "removing unmaintained drivers", most of which happened to be UMS because that was state of the art last time those drivers *were* maintained.

                Agree that it wouldn't take a *lot* of maintenance, but the ones removed were the ones where after multiple requests for maintainers to step up nobody had responded.

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                • #23
                  DRI is one thing, ddx is another. A whole bunch of ddx drivers had a new release last night, to make them compatible with server 1.12. All of them UMS.

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                  • #24
                    Yeah, the removal was in Mesa AFAIK, which basically removed the 3D hardware accel component that worked with older UMS drivers from the ongoing Mesa tree. The UMS drivers themselves wouldn't necessarily have been affected.

                    I imagine there will be a corresponding cleanup in the DRM as well (or maybe it's already happened) but most of the UMS drivers I have seen will still come up and run without DRM support being present.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by fritsch View Post
                      Anyone tried the 12.4 OpenCL beta for now?
                      http://developer.amd.com/Downloads/O...iversLinux.tgz Version 8.96.0
                      Yes, and it actually seems to fix an "ASIC hang" for me.

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                      • #26
                        Interestingly, they work better with gnome-shell than 12.2 and very surprising to me - they work flawlessly with my bitcoin miner, which wasn't starting at all with anything newer than 11.12. Well done, AMD!
                        Now, how can I remove that "AMD testing use only" from the lower right corner?
                        Mint 12, HD6950

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by rewind View Post
                          Now, how can I remove that "AMD testing use only" from the lower right corner?
                          By installing release build: http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTA3ODM

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                          • #28
                            Too fast, just red about 12.3 Thanks anyway, I think I'll stick with those for now.

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