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  • Goodbye ATI

    I finally switched to NVidia (I ordered a GTX 560 Ti). I've been using ATI cards since almost 10 years (a Radeon 7500 was the first.) But, lacking good Linux support for 10 years is too much. But you know what? In 10 more years from now, when maybe the drivers will be good at last, I'll switch back. But for now, you lost a very loyal customer who actually tried very hard to like your products much more than the ones from your competitor.

    So no more pro-ATI trolling from me. From now on I'm an pro-NVidia guy. Er, no wait... Strike that last part ;-)

  • #2
    I'm not a ATI pro troll either, because this corporation doesn't exist anymore

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    • #3
      Hey, I grew up calling them "ATI", I'm not gonna change that. It has sentimental value :-P

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RealNC View Post
        From now on I'm an pro-NVidia guy. Er, no wait... Strike that last part ;-)
        A pro-nvidia girl?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
          A pro-nvidia girl?
          Pwnt :-P

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          • #6
            Are you expecting a parting gift? Why was this thread necessary?

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            • #7
              breaking news...
              my shopping trolley will now be full of? does it matter? what is the point of this thread? wouldn't it be more useful to file bugs than to write public farewells to manufacturers of ...things? Does anyone care why some megalomaniac has had an epic emotional breakdown with a manufacturer of things...?

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              • #8
                I test ati cards with latest drivers every month, just to know which is broken that was not broken before I have got a script to remove the drivers as well. As my test box is usually open i can switch gfx cards within a few seconds. The last new errors have been hd series 5 only, so you did not even notice em with your old card. So basically you could still test fglrx drivers each month if you wanted

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kano View Post
                  I test ati cards with latest drivers every month, just to know which is broken that was not broken before I have got a script to remove the drivers as well. As my test box is usually open i can switch gfx cards within a few seconds. The last new errors have been hd series 5 only, so you did not even notice em with your old card. So basically you could still test fglrx drivers each month if you wanted
                  this is one of the biggest problem with the catalyst: no user side regression testing with GIT-Bisect.

                  because of this its hopeless to hope for an stable catalyst driver.

                  if the radeon driver starts to run openCL +openGL3.3 then the catalyst is obsolete for all users who wants a "stable" not "fast" driver.

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                  • #10
                    opengl 3 support is not that critical. not even for unigine games. but it is slow as hell compared to fglrx.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kano View Post
                      opengl 3 support is not that critical. not even for unigine games. but it is slow as hell compared to fglrx.
                      sure i play it with 1024x756 pixels.. with 20-25fps.

                      but hey oilrush for example is not a game with the need for high speed.

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                      • #12
                        Hey Q, why not run a oprofile, play a run in oilrush, and post the output? You too can help spot-the-bottleneck

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                        • #13
                          So, RealNC, what are the ups and downs using Nvidia so far? Any bugs, glitches?

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                          • #14
                            I can certainly understand where you are standing. Myself, I just switched to Windows instead. Fglrx is really not good at all, and even appears to be getting worse (in the last 12 months, suspend has been broken, Gnome Shell still doesn't work, Xvba has gotten worse, and now Xv has started to crash). Radeon is great if it covers your needs, but lack of video acceleration and power management hurts.

                            If I were buying a pure Linux laptop or desktop now, I would be getting an Intel that's for certain.

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                            • #15
                              I want to switch to AMD but I won't!

                              I got a Nvidia card. I am not a fanboy of any company.

                              My Nvidia card works good under Linux. The proprietary drivers work great, and the open source drivers work alright too. I actually use the open source device drivers, as they cover my needs well.

                              I don't like that Nvidia does not provide open source drivers nor does it support open source driver development.
                              AMD on the other hand does contribute to open source development. Hence, I really would like to switch to AMD.

                              But I cant.
                              • Nvidia's proprietary drivers are better than AMD's.
                              • Nvidia releases new drivers relatively quick for new versions of Xorg.
                              • AMD is slow to release drivers for new versions of Xorg, and I've even heard Ubuntu chose to say with Xorg 1.11 instead of 1.12 because AMD is lazy and cant provide a driver for the new version.
                              • Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the Nvidia open source driver to be better than the open source AMD driver, despite AMD's support and Nvidia's lack of support.

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