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  • #16
    Fedora 15 64 bit Gnome Version 3.0.1,X.Org X Server 1.10.1

    Will the Catalyst 11.11 Work with Fedora 15 Gnome Version 3 ?
    Anybody out there with success?
    My Card is Radeon HD 3870.
    I'm Considering Switch to KDE desktop if this doesn't support Gnome.

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    • #17
      A quick note about ubuntu's, I'm still running catalyst 11.10.
      From my experience, compiz 0.9.x is much slower than 0.8.x with catalyst, I don't know why, I have tested that multiple times and the result is the same. With 0.8.x + G2 compiz works silky smooth, even with 2 monitors, with 0.9.x it's not silky smooth but with one monitor it IS usable, with two - it's slideshow. So either compiz 0.9.x is NOT ready for primetime yet or they just started using features which catalyst don't support well. I can't comment on nVidia as I don't have any card which is recent.
      A simple test case which I run to verify my findings are, yes, much loved glxgears See, the same HW, same kernel, same catalyst version, compiz 0.9.x gives me at max 1000 fps for my HD3650M, compiz 0.8.x gives me 3500 fps or so with one monitor, two monitors with 0.8.x gives me roughly the same, compiz 0.9.x (unity) gives me 500, which is MUCH slower, it sometimes drops to 25 and stays there, I don't get how that works, but it's not consistent, it is slow but even slowness is not consistent, garbage.
      Please don't be confused with FPS as a value, it has no meaning for comparison, please see the difference, it's awful. And somehow I doubt it's catalyst as 0.8.x performs brilliant.
      Similar findings were in archlinux using compiz 0.9.2 at the time and 0.8.6, difference vas clearly visible.
      On the other hand, KDE4 since 4.7.2 performs just really nice and fluid even with 11.8, it's just that I can't use it due to other reasons.
      Last edited by Kirurgs; 11-16-2011, 02:12 AM.

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      • #18
        It still sucks

        Originally posted by symcracker View Post
        Will the Catalyst 11.11 Work with Fedora 15 Gnome Version 3 ?
        Anybody out there with success?
        My Card is Radeon HD 3870.
        I'm Considering Switch to KDE desktop if this doesn't support Gnome.
        Hi there, no it won't work for neither Fedora 15 or 16. I am running both systems. I swear: never ever ATI /AMD again. You go KDE, that'll be fine. Besides the annoying fact that plasma-netbook maximizes all windows it is a fast and nice replacement which works flawless with the 11.10-driver (i did not test the 11.11 with KDE yet). Ati really sucks.

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        • #19
          I assume PowerXpress (switchable dual intel&amd graphics) still doesnt work?

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          • #20
            It still sucks.

            Originally posted by symcracker View Post
            Will the Catalyst 11.11 Work with Fedora 15 Gnome Version 3 ?
            Anybody out there with success?
            My Card is Radeon HD 3870.
            I'm Considering Switch to KDE desktop if this doesn't support Gnome.
            It still sucks on Fedora 15 and 16. Go and switch to KDE, i did the switch to plasma-netbook and it works like a charm.

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            • #21
              any changelog ?

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              • #22
                Compiles on Fdora 16

                It compiles fine with kernel 3.1 and Xorg 1.11
                I have occasional crashes with the Gnome 3.2 shell, tough. Seems to happen when moving windows and openeing
                the overview screen.

                Moving of windows is a bit choppy, as if the entire screen was updated like 15Hz
                There is no tearing visible, tough.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
                  I assume PowerXpress (switchable dual intel&amd graphics) still doesnt work?
                  It still fails completely; X will not start.

                  11.8 is the final working version. Looks like it will never work again, sigh.

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                  • #24
                    There is no severe graphics corruption.

                    Can someone confirm this who had issues with previous drivers? I used the open-source dirvers for the past 6 months.

                    when entering the overview screen, then the background is briefly corrupted. It is distracting but not annoying.
                    I have read that menus and the like used to be completely corrupted.

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                    • #25
                      Thanks GrrlTlak for your reply again

                      Originally posted by GrrlTlak View Post
                      Hi there, no it won't work for neither Fedora 15 or 16. I am running both systems. I swear: never ever ATI /AMD again. You go KDE, that'll be fine. Besides the annoying fact that plasma-netbook maximizes all windows it is a fast and nice replacement which works flawless with the 11.10-driver (i did not test the 11.11 with KDE yet). Ati really sucks.
                      I Should switch to KDE last month. I Waited for Catalyst 11.11 for Gnome 3 Fix.But Time Wasted
                      BTW Gnome 3 User Interface is ModeRn and Ease.It really needs HW Acceleration for mutter window Management.
                      Thanks for the Quick Reply

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                      • #26
                        it is possible to have decent performance in G3 if you disable vsync. Of course, G3 being what it is, there's no config option to check anywhere. You have to drop
                        Code:
                        export CLUTTER_VBLANK=none
                        in your .profile or .bashrc

                        But I do prefer KDE anyway

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by johnfparis View Post
                          It still fails completely; X will not start.

                          11.8 is the final working version. Looks like it will never work again, sigh.
                          Huh I wasnt aware 11.8 works. I'm sure I tried it...

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                          • #28
                            Not working on F16

                            I only recently installed F16 from F14 (Why the **** did I do that, big mistake)
                            Tried catalyst 11.10, got the black screen upon boot.
                            Tried 11.11, it seems to compile & install fine, no error in the log, it even booted into gnome okay, but it was VERY slow, glxgears didn't even show up, so I uninstalled and reinstalled driver, but when booted again, stuck at the sad computer face that say "oh no, something has gone wrong". Now back to square one.

                            My card is a 5570, dell xps420, on a clean install of F16.
                            I'd really like to get gnome 3 working, please help?

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                            • #29
                              Tried it on my amd c-50 netbook (asus 1215b) with a Fedora 16 install. And it horribly failed. X wont start again.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by GrrlTlak View Post
                                Hi there, no it won't work for neither Fedora 15 or 16. I am running both systems. I swear: never ever ATI /AMD again. You go KDE, that'll be fine. Besides the annoying fact that plasma-netbook maximizes all windows it is a fast and nice replacement which works flawless with the 11.10-driver (i did not test the 11.11 with KDE yet). Ati really sucks.
                                openSUSE 12.1 is the first distribution officially supported by Catalyst to ship with GNOME3, and the status on this version is "preview". So these drivers work as advertised. Everything else is a bonus.
                                Use either a distribution that is officially supported, or use the opensource drivers. Otherwise you're on your own. In which case you might want to use that time, wasted posting "it sucks" comments, constructively instead, by... Oh I don't know... Getting users of your distro to ask AMD to support it?
                                It's insane that this has to be repeated for... EVERY... SINGLE... RELEASE... of Catalyst.
                                Last edited by PsynoKhi0; 11-16-2011, 10:54 AM.

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