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  • #16
    Originally posted by ario View Post
    Thanks a lot guy, I read that page, and as mentioned in the page: "This page is only for free Radeon drivers". As I mentioned before, using free radeon driver on linux, all laptop is a smoking burning block!
    I realize the thread is about SB parts, but was your GPU "smoking burning hot" even after setting a low power profile following the instructions at the bottom of the page ?

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    • #17
      The initial post lists temperatures for CPU, GPU, and HDD. I don't see anything about SB there. The only thing that changing the video driver can accomplish is GPU temperature changes.

      Also, the fact that the various parts are all tied together in common heat spreaders tends to result in the temperature of one part being dragged up by heat coming off another part.

      Go back to the open source driver, set the power profile to low, and see what happens.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by bridgman View Post
        I realize the thread is about SB parts, but was your GPU "smoking burning hot" even after setting a low power profile following the instructions at the bottom of the page ?
        Thanks for the reply indeed. I didn't tried that ever because installing proprietary driver solved my problem with the GPU and CPU. The only problem exists, is the temperature of SB700 chip.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
          The initial post lists temperatures for CPU, GPU, and HDD. I don't see anything about SB there. The only thing that changing the video driver can accomplish is GPU temperature changes.

          Also, the fact that the various parts are all tied together in common heat spreaders tends to result in the temperature of one part being dragged up by heat coming off another part.

          Go back to the open source driver, set the power profile to low, and see what happens.
          As I mentioned, Installing proprietary driver from AMD site reduced temperatures of GPU and CPU a lot. But SB700 chip is still too hot. I do not need to activate any profile for my GPU cause it's not hot. The SB700 chip is soldered on opposite site of mainboard comparing to GPU and CPU and is connected to an aluminium plate under keyboard which acts as a heat-sink to it. It is also positioned above the HDD so it causes the HDD to get too hot. This is why on first post I talked about the HDD temperature. I repeat removing HDD completely and booting system from memory card will not cool down SB700 and it's still hot.
          After all, is it still necessary to remove proprietary driver from currently installed system, install opensource drivers and enable the low power profile to see whether it helps or not? It takes my time and I guess it won't work.
          In the folder of windows drivers of my ACER5536 laptop, there are two folders under graphic driver folder with names:
          USBFilter
          SB700
          After installing SB700 driver in my windows driver, HDD and SB700 chip itself cooled down and I think there must be similar driver which do the trick under Linux. If it's not there (I can't find it on AMD site) I'm ready to write it myself, but don't have any Idea where to start from!
          Thanks again. Any other Idea?

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          • #20
            Ok. Fresh installed Ubuntu 11.04 AMD64 Alpha 3 with the 64bit kernel 2.6.38-5 on my laptop's hard-drive. Tried to enable the profiles. As in the wiki page of x.org:
            You can select the methods via sysfs. Echo "dynpm" or "profile" to /sys/class/drm/card-0/device/power_method.
            But I think canonical changed some addresses. In my /sys/class/drm/ this is the output of ls command:
            card0 card0-HDMI-A-1 card0-LVDS-1 card0-VGA-1 controlD64 ttm version
            Names in bold are symbolic links. So the address is not applicable without modification. by the way I changed card-0 to card0 and echoed profile and low keywords into related files without double quotations, still no change at all. Also due to lake of proprietary driver from AMD, GPU and CPU are hot too.
            If you guys are right and the main reason is the Hard-drive itself, but not SB700 (The temperature of SB700 is much lower when I completely remove the HDD), how can I enable similar power-management features to my hard-drive or it's relating interface (maybe the AHCI)?

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            • #21
              So something seems to be accessing your HD a lot. Try installing and playing with atop.

              (Sorry about my earlier trolling comment)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DanL View Post
                So something seems to be accessing your HD a lot. Try installing and playing with atop.

                (Sorry about my earlier trolling comment)
                Man, this is not because of high HDD usage from some sort of application. I tried to summarize my problem many times but I repeat some part again here:
                1. Bringin the system up using leave CD without mounting any HDD partition, spin downing HDD using hdparm and seeing it to be downed about 45 minutes using hddtemp and mounting one partition after 45 minutes of spinned down to wake it up and finnally running hddtemp will show 50C degree temperature, only 10 degrees reduce is not enough.
                2. and the most important part is that there is similar problem in windows 7 until I install SB7xx AHCI driver for Windows 7 which I found in the GPU driver folder
                The two above terms make me sure that this is a problem handling AHCI part of SB700 chip. I believe this and I'm seeking a way to solve this.

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                • #23
                  I edit above post below due to limitations of this site! :
                  Originally posted by DanL View Post
                  So something seems to be accessing your HD a lot. Try installing and playing with atop.

                  (Sorry about my earlier trolling comment)
                  Man, this is not because of high HDD usage from some sort of application. I tried to summarize my problem many times but I repeat some part again here:
                  1. even no HDD usage at all will not solve the problem. Why? Because I tried bringin the system up using leave CD without mounting any HDD partition, spin downing HDD using hdparm and seeing it to be downed about 45 minutes using hddtemp and mounting one partition after 45 minutes of spinned down to wake it up and finnally running hddtemp which showed 50C degree temperature, only 10 degrees reduce is not enough.
                  2. and the most important part is that AMD SB7xx AHCI driver reduced the temperature down to 38C on windows. How? There was similar problem in windows 7, until I installed SB7xx AHCI driver for Windows 7 which I found in the GPU driver folder.
                  The two above terms make me sure that this is a problem handling AHCI part of SB700 chip. I believe this and I'm seeking a way to solve this.
                  Guys, I appreciate your help for solving this problem, but please for better solving the problem kindly take a moment review what I tried before sending a new suggestion.
                  I thank you very much for the cooperation

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                  • #24
                    For more information, this is the output of lspci -vvxxx . I just brought you the AHCI part to summarize the output:
                    Code:
                    00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
                    	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0206
                    	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
                    	Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
                    	Latency: 64
                    	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 22
                    	Region 0: I/O ports at 8420 [size=8]
                    	Region 1: I/O ports at 8414 [size=4]
                    	Region 2: I/O ports at 8418 [size=8]
                    	Region 3: I/O ports at 8410 [size=4]
                    	Region 4: I/O ports at 8400 [size=16]
                    	Region 5: Memory at f0208000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
                    	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
                    		Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                    		Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
                    	Capabilities: [70] SATA HBA v1.0 InCfgSpace
                    	Kernel driver in use: ahci
                    	Kernel modules: ahci
                    00: 02 10 91 43 07 00 30 02 00 01 06 01 00 40 00 00
                    10: 21 84 00 00 15 84 00 00 19 84 00 00 11 84 00 00
                    20: 01 84 00 00 00 80 20 f0 00 00 00 00 25 10 06 02
                    30: 00 00 00 00 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00
                    40: 10 00 3c 20 01 00 10 00 00 00 20 01 00 00 00 00
                    50: 05 70 84 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                    60: 01 70 22 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                    70: 12 00 10 00 0f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                    80: 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 2c 14 80 b4 01 14 80 b4 01
                    90: 16 80 b4 01 16 80 b4 01 16 80 b4 01 16 80 b4 01
                    a0: 7a a0 7a a0 7a a0 7a a0 7a a0 7a a0 00 00 00 00
                    b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                    c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                    d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00
                    e0: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                    f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

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                    • #25
                      Even more details with vendor code "4391":
                      Code:
                      00:11.0 SATA controller [0106]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1002:4391] (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
                      	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0206]
                      	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
                      	Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
                      	Latency: 64
                      	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 22
                      	Region 0: I/O ports at 8420 [size=8]
                      	Region 1: I/O ports at 8414 [size=4]
                      	Region 2: I/O ports at 8418 [size=8]
                      	Region 3: I/O ports at 8410 [size=4]
                      	Region 4: I/O ports at 8400 [size=16]
                      	Region 5: Memory at f0208000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
                      	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
                      		Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                      		Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
                      	Capabilities: [70] SATA HBA v1.0 InCfgSpace
                      	Kernel driver in use: ahci
                      	Kernel modules: ahci
                      00: 02 10 91 43 07 00 30 02 00 01 06 01 00 40 00 00
                      10: 21 84 00 00 15 84 00 00 19 84 00 00 11 84 00 00
                      20: 01 84 00 00 00 80 20 f0 00 00 00 00 25 10 06 02
                      30: 00 00 00 00 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00
                      40: 10 00 3c 20 01 00 10 00 00 00 20 01 00 00 00 00
                      50: 05 70 84 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                      60: 01 70 22 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                      70: 12 00 10 00 0f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                      80: 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 2c 14 80 b4 01 14 80 b4 01
                      90: 16 80 b4 01 16 80 b4 01 16 80 b4 01 16 80 b4 01
                      a0: 7a a0 7a a0 7a a0 7a a0 7a a0 7a a0 00 00 00 00
                      b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                      c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                      d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00
                      e0: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                      f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

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                      • #26
                        Before anyone tells me, I tried setting the sata mode from AHCI to IDE : No Change
                        Thanks again.

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                        • #27
                          Maybe it is ALPM: http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Re...uide/ALPM.html
                          I still think you should look at atop, or better yet, powertop.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DanL View Post
                            Maybe it is ALPM: http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Re...uide/ALPM.html
                            I still think you should look at atop, or better yet, powertop.
                            Thanks. It makes sense. I will take a look at it. I think it must be about power management too. SB700 is not only a south-bridge chip, but as far as I know, it's also the SATA controller, USB filter and even the sound card.
                            I remember that I tried the power top. Followed it's all suggestions, it reduced power consumption a bit, except it told me press A to standby sound device or some message like about sound device and every time I pressed A it couldn't turn it off and used to repeat the same message again and again. I could hear a tep sound from laptop speakers but no change in power usage statics in gnome-power-monitor. Also the USB port cannot enumerate high power consumption devices like external Hard Drives. It can enumerate flash disks, blue tooth dangles, etc. but it can't just bring my external hard-drives, which windows 7 is able to only after installing the damned "SB7xx USB Filter" driver.
                            Guys, I'm sure that there's something going on about power management of SB700 chip on linux. Which limits output current of USB filter part of the chip to 100mA and will cause the HDD and the chip itself to get very hot.
                            I will read the link, but any other Ideas?
                            Thanks again

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                            • #29
                              Tried ALPM settings: No Change
                              Now the problem is: Power management problems on SB700

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                              • #30
                                B u m p !!

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