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    Hi,

    I just installed fglrx again because I was bored and wanted to have some 3D. Then I tried to enable compositing in KDE4 and what happens? Right, it crashes.

    Why does fglrx suck so hard? WHY?

  • #2
    Well professional users do not need KDE 4 effects, therefore you will be a 2nd class customer as usual.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bugmenot View Post
      Hi,

      I just installed fglrx again because I was bored and wanted to have some 3D. Then I tried to enable compositing in KDE4 and what happens? Right, it crashes.

      Why does fglrx suck so hard? WHY?
      Working just fine here, fglrx 10.2, openSUSE 11.2 64bit, KDE 4.3.5

      Added a line in xorg.conf, see http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=63
      (It is actually taken from a sticky thread on the Compiz forums regarding fglrx, I simply gave it a shot )
      Without that line, X hangs when trying to turn compositing on.

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      • #4
        I also use KDE 4.3.5 and fglrsux 10.2, added that line, restarted X, but it still crashes. :/

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        • #5
          Working fine here with KDE4.4.1. Did have to revert to fglrx 10.1 though, since the latest is not letting me use composition (it's fixed in 10.3 as fas as I can tell, so don't worry).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bugmenot View Post
            Hi,

            I just installed fglrx again because I was bored and wanted to have some 3D. Then I tried to enable compositing in KDE4 and what happens? Right, it crashes.

            Why does fglrx suck so hard? WHY?
            fglrx's development focus is too narrow, imho. Their quality standard for non workstation related functionality is considerably sub par to nvidia's.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bugmenot View Post
              I also use KDE 4.3.5 and fglrsux 10.2, added that line, restarted X, but it still crashes. :/
              Did you tell aticonfig to use your hand-edited xorg.conf?

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              • #8
                Do you talk to aticonfig now? Must be a monolog

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                • #9
                  Well, I also tried "aticonfig --disable-suckhard-mode", but this is all I get:

                  aticonfig: unrecognized option '--disable-suckhard-mode'
                  aticonfig: parsing the command-line failed.

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                  • #10
                    Heh.

                    I dunno, I have to say, I'm not a big fan of either ATI's or nVidia's drivers. Right now, I can't get either of them to work as well as I'd like, but I found a set of video options that let things work with the nVidia card, while I've found nothing that keeps the ATI card from locking up hard enough that I need to hit the reset button.

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                    • #11
                      ATI fglrx drivers aren't a priority in Linux, probably. ATI's video drivers in Windows is a priority.

                      I read of recent posts of Fedora 12 users not being able to use HD Radeon 5xxx cards. The reason or excuse is that Fedora isn't a 'supported distro.' I don't know what that means. Fedora isn't a Linux distro?!? I am mostly using Debian and Ubuntu but I have a Fedora partition. However, I have a Nvidia card so no problems so far.

                      It's really a shame because I would probably prefer ATI hardware currently.

                      I still figure it's a manpower or resources problem. It's probably safe to assume that ATI would like to have better Linux support. Support sounds like it eventually arrives but late and seems like the 'two driver project' takes up a lot of resources.

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                      • #12
                        Having shipped some stuff running on Linux ... It's very hard to make something run on every possible Linux system. Generally, you pick a handful of targets and only support those. I'd guess that the Fedora 12 environment is newer than the other supported environments, and broke backwards compatibility with something. It'll likely get fixed in time.

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                        • #13
                          Unsupported in this case means it won't run unless you try some horrible method of downgrading XOrg to the version from Fedora 11, as the fglrx driver *still* doesn't support version 7.5 which came out in October and Fedora 12 shipped (also now the default version on Arch and Debian Squeeze/Sid).

                          Originally posted by Panix View Post
                          ATI fglrx drivers aren't a priority in Linux, probably. ATI's video drivers in Windows is a priority.

                          I read of recent posts of Fedora 12 users not being able to use HD Radeon 5xxx cards. The reason or excuse is that Fedora isn't a 'supported distro.' I don't know what that means. Fedora isn't a Linux distro?!? I am mostly using Debian and Ubuntu but I have a Fedora partition. However, I have a Nvidia card so no problems so far.

                          It's really a shame because I would probably prefer ATI hardware currently.

                          I still figure it's a manpower or resources problem. It's probably safe to assume that ATI would like to have better Linux support. Support sounds like it eventually arrives but late and seems like the 'two driver project' takes up a lot of resources.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Exopaladin View Post
                            Unsupported in this case means it won't run unless you try some horrible method of downgrading XOrg to the version from Fedora 11, as the fglrx driver *still* doesn't support version 7.5 which came out in October and Fedora 12 shipped (also now the default version on Arch and Debian Squeeze/Sid).
                            I thought even Karmic users say some version of fglrx doesn't work quite right. Not sure if it's ver. 10 or what but the point is even the 'supported' distros don't seem to have a 'fully working solution.'

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                            • #15
                              10.2 has problems with composition with some people. Other than that, fglrx works rather well on Ubuntu. Used the driver on OpenSuse as well and no major problems there either.

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