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  • #16
    Originally posted by blindfrog View Post
    I really don't care about xvba anymore. All i personally would like to see is XV just working like with free drivers.
    You should use mplayer -vo gl2

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    • #17
      This driver is much better than previous versions. Although the release notes are meagre and doesn't say much, this version contain fixes for some of the rendering problems I've experienced with previous releases.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by suokko View Post
        You should use mplayer -vo gl2
        gl2 better than xv?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Apopas View Post
          gl2 better than xv?
          with catalyst yes... far far better.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by AdrenalineJunky View Post
            with catalyst yes... far far better.
            Interesting but is the performance good? I mean is it poibletoee a High Definition movie with an older chipset or with an older PC? I didn't change a graphics card for a long time and I don't have personal experience how Radeons work under Linux.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Apopas View Post
              Interesting but is the performance good? I mean is it poibletoee a High Definition movie with an older chipset or with an older PC? I didn't change a graphics card for a long time and I don't have personal experience how Radeons work under Linux.
              that would depend on what exactly your definition of "older" is.

              i can watch 1080p mp4 on an hd3200 with 15-20% cpu load on a phenom 9950 2.6ghz

              niether of those are that old, but the 3200 is an integrated card... and the load is low enough on the phenom to where alot of older processors would handle it just as well.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by AdrenalineJunky View Post
                that would depend on what exactly your definition of "older" is.

                i can watch 1080p mp4 on an hd3200 with 15-20% cpu load on a phenom 9950 2.6ghz

                niether of those are that old, but the 3200 is an integrated card... and the load is low enough on the phenom to where alot of older processors would handle it just as well.
                This load is certainly not low! 20% means that you are pegging one CPU at 80% - a 100% spike will result in dropped frames and/or audio desync!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                  This load is certainly not low! 20% means that you are pegging one CPU at 80% - a 100% spike will result in dropped frames and/or audio desync!
                  i didn't say "low" i said "low enough for alot of older processors to handle it"

                  big difference....

                  besides, i've never seen it actually hit 25%... most any dual core should be capable of running 1080p, assuming multithreaded decoding. single cores below the ~2.8ghz for athalon 64 may or may not. i realize this discludes alot of hardware, which is also why i said define "older". this does however, include alot of hardware as well.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by AdrenalineJunky View Post
                    i didn't say "low" i said "low enough for alot of older processors to handle it"

                    big difference....

                    besides, i've never seen it actually hit 25%... most any dual core should be capable of running 1080p, assuming multithreaded decoding. single cores below the ~2.8ghz for athalon 64 may or may not. i realize this discludes alot of hardware, which is also why i said define "older". this does however, include alot of hardware as well.
                    I tried "Big Buck Bunny 1080p AC3" in my system. Athlon64 3000+ , 1.5 GB RAM and GF 8500 GT.
                    With compiz enabled the video sucks at 90% CPU,
                    without compiz was 20%-50%.
                    The software was Mplayer-1.0RC2 with XV and alsa.

                    If I use vdpau, then I can watch with compiz enabled at 70% maximum CPU and without at 20%-40%.
                    Last edited by Apopas; 09-12-2009, 05:18 PM.

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                    • #25
                      I really don't think it makes much sense to make the non-existence of XvBA the highlight of every damn driver release.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by nanonyme View Post
                        I really don't think it makes much sense to make the non-existence of XvBA the highlight of every damn driver release.
                        If it's the only highlight, then it's the only thing to talk about.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                          If it's the only highlight, then it's the only thing to talk about.
                          Yeah but why does Michael always raise it up? Is it his intention that people start complaining about its non-existence on every release? I'm sure people would gradually stop caring if he stopped mentioning it all the time.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by nanonyme View Post
                            Yeah but why does Michael always raise it up? Is it his intention that people start complaining about its non-existence on every release? I'm sure people would gradually stop caring if he stopped mentioning it all the time.
                            Why are you sure? People want something like VDPAU for their AMD cards too.

                            And besides, what's in it for you? I mean, why do you care if others care?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                              Why are you sure? People want something like VDPAU for their AMD cards too.

                              And besides, what's in it for you? I mean, why do you care if others care?
                              It looks pretty definitely sure that we're going to get VDPAU for AMD cards too over Gallium3D eventually so I personally stopped caring of XvBA long time ago.
                              I dunno. Probably a personality disorder or something to be annoyed at people bickering over a thing that isn't going to come any sooner no matter how impatient they are.

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                              • #30
                                VDPAU > XvBA, we've got benchmarks on this very site to demonstrate as much. If there's one video API AMD will implement in catalyst, it should be VDPAU.

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