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  • Ubuntu 9.10 Gets Unreleased Catalyst 9.10 Driver

    Phoronix: Ubuntu 9.10 Gets Unreleased Catalyst 9.10 Driver

    Besides the ATI Catalyst Linux driver still lacking public XvBA support (the library is in the driver, but there's no documentation or public implementations of it) even though we exclusively detailed the X-Video Bitstream Acceleration architecture nearly a year ago for enhancing HD video playback on Linux, the other leading problem we usually end up facing with AMD's proprietary Linux driver is their slow response time with supporting new X Server and kernel releases. AMD's policy has been not to focus on providing support for unreleased kernels/X servers, and then to provide the support once out, but while they do provide new releases on a consistent monthly basis, things usually don't end up working out as planned. In some cases it has taken AMD months to support new Linux components within their proprietary driver stack to the point that most recently support for the Linux 2.6.29 kernel wasn't even added until after the Linux 2.6.30 kernel had been out...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzUxNA

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    Already Installed

    I had it installed yesterday and it's working well. Problems experienced ;

    *screen flashes when starting wine-apps and KRandRTray.


    glxgears with default window size =
    17598 frames in 5.0 seconds
    46227 frames in 5.0 seconds
    47909 frames in 5.0 seconds
    45540 frames in 5.0 seconds
    47655 frames in 5.0 seconds
    47955 frames in 5.0 seconds
    48026 frames in 5.0 seconds
    47151 frames in 5.0 seconds
    47731 frames in 5.0 seconds
    49737 frames in 5.0 seconds
    50174 frames in 5.0 seconds
    50120 frames in 5.0 seconds
    48377 frames in 5.0 seconds

    on HD x3870.

    I used to get about 3K in standard driver, and about 7K with previous (when they worked!) fglrx drivers, so it's an improvement but could be better hey?

    Does anyone know what score to expect from this HD 3870 card?

    SMART MOVE TEAM !!!
    Last edited by Threedays; 09-06-2009, 04:13 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Threedays View Post
      I had it installed yesterday and it's working well. Problems experienced ;

      *screen flashes when starting wine-apps and KRandRTray.


      glxgears with default window size =
      17598 frames in 5.0 seconds
      46227 frames in 5.0 seconds
      47909 frames in 5.0 seconds
      45540 frames in 5.0 seconds
      47655 frames in 5.0 seconds
      47955 frames in 5.0 seconds
      48026 frames in 5.0 seconds
      47151 frames in 5.0 seconds
      47731 frames in 5.0 seconds
      49737 frames in 5.0 seconds
      50174 frames in 5.0 seconds
      50120 frames in 5.0 seconds
      48377 frames in 5.0 seconds

      on HD x3870.

      I used to get about 3K in standard driver, and about 7K with previous (when they worked!) fglrx drivers, so it's an improvement but could be better hey?

      Does anyone know what score to expect from this HD 3870 card?

      SMART MOVE TEAM !!!
      glxgears. is. not. a. benchmark.
      Last edited by d2kx; 09-06-2009, 04:32 PM.

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      • #4
        @Threedays

        Try using the other port. This happens when then 2nd port is used and

        xrandr

        commands are executed. glxgears is really boring also it gets a higher score when the window is invisible and results invalid then.

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        • #5
          I'm not sure, should we say thank you amd for making a card we bought from you actually work?

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          • #6
            Game Test

            Gaming has vastly improved both in wine and linux native games! It wont be long before developers wont have any excuses not to port games to both platforms.

            Fullscreen games did reorganise my icons though when quitting. This is annoying.

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            • #7
              This happens mainly when you use another fullscreen res than your desktop res.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kano View Post
                @Threedays

                Try using the other port. This happens when then 2nd port is used and

                xrandr

                commands are executed. glxgears is really boring also it gets a higher score when the window is invisible and results invalid then.
                Ok thanks for the heads up. So I connect the monitor to the other port on the card!

                UPDATE : THANKS KANO IT WORKED !!!! no more flashing
                Last edited by Threedays; 09-06-2009, 04:50 PM.

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                • #9
                  That bug is so old that ATI maybe forgot about fixing it...

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                  • #10
                    Really AMD. If you have to do this thrice, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

                    What about tracking upstream development a little closer, so this doesn't have to keep happening?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by [Knuckles] View Post
                      Really AMD. If you have to do this thrice, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

                      What about tracking upstream development a little closer, so this doesn't have to keep happening?
                      The ATI developers are too busy typing on TWITTER and other social networks to get A1 quality for the company they work for.

                      Linux is the future and if they don't get in now they will lose too much ground.

                      Every Thing Is Happening On Linux !!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by [Knuckles] View Post
                        Really AMD. If you have to do this thrice, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

                        What about tracking upstream development a little closer, so this doesn't have to keep happening?
                        Not sure I agree with that.

                        We could have spent relatively more time on upstream compatibility (shortening the delay between new kernel versions and support) and relatively less on game compatibility and other consumer issues. I think what happened was a reasonable division of effort.

                        Now that we have picked off a lot of the consumer issues it should be easier to choose where to allocate time, but I think the last six months was too soon to shift effort away from consumer fixes and spend it on faster upstream support.

                        Originally posted by Threedays View Post
                        The ATI developers are too busy typing on TWITTER and other social networks to get A1 quality for the company they work for.
                        Huh ??

                        Originally posted by Threedays View Post
                        Linux is the future and if they don't get in now they will lose too much ground.

                        Every Thing Is Happening On Linux !!!
                        ... except PC GPU sales (so far). All indications are still that Linux is between 1 and 2% of our market, and closer to 1 than 2. Linux is making great progress in a lot of other market segments, particularly embedded systems and servers, but progress in mainstream PCs hasn't been so fast. Current thinking seems to be that a round of enterprise desktop adoption will be needed before we see a real spurt in consumer usage. I think PC vendors could accelerate that by offering Linux on the right consumer platforms (aimed at users who mostly work online and don't have to think about application compatibility) but we're not quite there yet.
                        Last edited by bridgman; 09-06-2009, 08:06 PM.

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                        • #13
                          This may be true, but then again hardware reviewers are much less than 1% of the market. However hardware manufacturers do almost everything to look good to reviewers. Why? Because other users turn to review sites to find out which hardware they should buy and which one not.

                          The same can be said for many Linux users, these are in many cases more knowledgeable about computers than the average (exceptions prove the rule ). And more often than not, they are who their friends/acquaintances turn to for purchasing decisions.

                          Saying Linux sales don't matter because they are less than 2% is like the (proverbial) statistician drowning in a lake of average depth six inches.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bridgman View Post


                            ... except PC GPU sales (so far). All indications are still that Linux is between 1 and 2% of our market, and closer to 1 than 2. Linux is making great progress in a lot of other market segments, particularly embedded systems and servers, but progress in mainstream PCs hasn't been so fast. Current thinking seems to be that a round of enterprise desktop adoption will be needed before we see a real spurt in consumer usage. I think PC vendors could accelerate that by offering Linux on the right consumer platforms (aimed at users who mostly work online and don't have to think about application compatibility) but we're not quite there yet.
                            that's perhaps because you don't offer feature-rich enough drivers (yet)

                            your drivers seem to lack important openGL extensions / support compared to nvidia from what I read and also suffers somewhat in the stability and new kernel area

                            if those three are solved/support on a continued basis I'm sure there will be much more users or even big companies using AMD/ATI cards for their linux-systems

                            I'm not sure whether it's only gossip but if I remember correctly the animation movie "Cars" was rendered on Gentoo boxen with nvidia GPUs

                            so if there's no argument which speaks against usage of GPUs from AMD wouldn't it be nice publicity (especially among gamers and geeks) that the new Pixar, Disney, {insert Animation studio of your choice} movie was rendered by AMD GPUs (which by the way are more accurate in floatingpoint calculations and therefore make the movie look even better) ?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                              I'm not sure, should we say thank you amd for making a card we bought from you actually work?
                              On Linux? Yes. If you bought an ATI product and expected it to work perfectly on Linux, you're either foolish for not doing research on your purchase or unreasonable.

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