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  • Catalyst 9.6 + 3 monitors in SurroundView

    I went out and bought an ATI 4870 (2 dvi outs). I tried to configure it with 3 monitors (using my motherboards integrated 3200) with no luck. I could get 3 screens at 1680x1050 if I disabled RandR support, however I could never get the middle monitor to go to 1920x1080 (it's native resolution). Anyone get around it, or know when ATI is releasing a new driver?

    At this point I am pretty frustrated with ATI, so if anyone from AMD wants to do some goodwill before I return it to Microcenter and get an NVidia as I should have done in the first place, now is that time.

    Currently running open source ATI driver on Jaunty 9.04 x86_64 right now, because whenever I reconfigure fglrx, I can't restart X without rebooting which is insanely annoying.

  • #2
    What was the aticonfig command you used when setting up fglrx ? If you're doing multi-GPU you need a fairly involved aticonfig command; it's been posted here a few times but I don't remember it off the top of my head.

    I vaguely remember someone mentioning an X server issue that didn't like having the middle monitor higher res than the left one but no idea when/where; might be worth trying having the big one on the left though.

    Have you posted logs etc previously ?

    Not sure what you mean by "whenever I reconfigure fglrx, I can't restart X without rebooting", can you give a bit more detail pls ?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bridgman View Post
      What was the aticonfig command you used when setting up fglrx ? If you're doing multi-GPU you need a fairly involved aticonfig command; it's been posted here a few times but I don't remember it off the top of my head.

      I vaguely remember someone mentioning an X server issue that didn't like having the middle monitor higher res than the left one but no idea when/where; might be worth trying having the big one on the left though.

      Have you posted logs etc previously ?

      Not sure what you mean by "whenever I reconfigure fglrx, I can't restart X without rebooting", can you give a bit more detail pls ?
      Sorry if my tone sounds offensive, but I have been through literally 200 reboots trying to find that right combination of magic.

      I haven't yet re-ordered the monitors yet, but I will give it a shot tonight.

      Initially config was done using 'aticonfig --initial'. After that, I tried to exclusively use amdcccle. Once I determined that wouldn't work, I ran:

      aticonfig --set-pcs-str="DDX,EnableRandR12,FALSE"

      I then ran amdcccle again and had 3 monitors at 1680x1050, however the middle one would not go to 1920x1080. I edited the /etc/ati/amdpcsdb by hand, and put my requested mode in, but it still said it couldn't go to that mode.

      What I mean about restarting the system is: everytime I change a setting, I go to logout, then run /etc/init.d/gdm stop and kill any X server running so I can make sure fglrx isn't storing any x config. I then verify as many settings as I can in /etc/ati/amdpcsdb, and my xorg.conf. I then try to startup gdm / X, at which point the system freezes. On reboot it works.

      I am really hoping since surround view was only added a few releases ago that this is just a known bug, but the public unofficial bugtracker doesn't look like a good way to address it. I did fill out the AMD feedback form, but never got a response from it. If you know anyone who can help, that would be great.

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      • #4
        Sounds like it might be a setup issue, probably not a bug. You need to run an aticonfig command line like :

        aticonfig --initial=dual-head -f --adapters=all
        If you want to try running with Xinerama (I haven't tried it), then :
        aticonfig --initial=dual-head -f --adapters=all --xinerama=on
        FYI the feedback form is not a support line (ie you should not expect a response), it just lets us collect feedback which gets used for future planning.

        I don't think directly editing the pcs file is recommended. Stopping X then using aticonfig is probably the safest way.

        Disabling RandR1.2 is probably a good idea if you're trying to use Multiview, since RandR in its current form doesn't really handle multiple GPUs well today.
        Last edited by bridgman; 07-22-2009, 05:55 PM.

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        • #5
          Thank you so much for your help. I now have all three monitors working. Only odd think is I have 3 mouse cursors, any idea how to make them 1?

          For those interested, I disabled Randr, and my xorg.conf is:

          Code:
          Section "ServerLayout"
          	Identifier     "aticonfig Layout"
          	Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0
          	Screen         "aticonfig-Screen[0]-1" LeftOf "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0"
          	Screen         "aticonfig-Screen[1]-0" LeftOf "aticonfig-Screen[0]-1"
          	Screen         "aticonfig-Screen[1]-1" LeftOf "aticonfig-Screen[1]-0"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Files"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Module"
          EndSection
          
          Section "ServerFlags"
          	Option	    "Xinerama" "on"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Monitor"
          	Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
          	Option	    "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
          	Option	    "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
          	Option	    "DPMS" "true"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Monitor"
          	Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-1"
          	Option	    "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
          	Option	    "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
          	Option	    "DPMS" "true"
          	Modeline "1680x1050_60.00"  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051 1054 1087  -HSync +Vsync
          EndSection
          
          Section "Monitor"
          	Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[1]-0"
          	Option	    "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
          	Option	    "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
          	Option	    "DPMS" "true"
          	Modeline "1920x1080_60.00"  172.80  1920 2040 2248 2576  1080 1081 1084 1118  -HSync +Vsync
          EndSection
          
          Section "Monitor"
          	Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[1]-1"
          	Option	    "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
          	Option	    "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
          	Option	    "DPMS" "true"
          	Modeline "1680x1050_60.00"  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051 1054 1087  -HSync +Vsync
          EndSection
          
          Section "Device"
          	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
          	Driver      "fglrx"
          	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Device"
          	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]-1"
          	Driver      "fglrx"
          	BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
          	Screen      1
          EndSection
          
          Section "Device"
          	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[1]-0"
          	Driver      "fglrx"
          	BusID       "PCI:1:5:0"
          EndSection
          
          Section "Device"
          	Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[1]-1"
          	Driver      "fglrx"
          	BusID       "PCI:1:5:0"
          	Screen      1
          EndSection
          
          Section "Screen"
          	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0"
          	Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
          	Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0"
          	DefaultDepth     24
          	SubSection "Display"
          		Viewport   0 0
          		Depth     24
          		Modes	"1680x1050_60.00"
          	EndSubSection
          EndSection
          
          Section "Screen"
          	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-1"
          	Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]-1"
          	Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-1"
          
          	DefaultDepth     24
          	SubSection "Display"
          		Viewport   0 0
          		Depth     24
          		Modes "1920x1080_60.00"
          	EndSubSection
          EndSection
          
          Section "Screen"
          	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[1]-0"
          	Device     "aticonfig-Device[1]-0"
          	Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[1]-0"
          	DefaultDepth     24
          	SubSection "Display"
          		Viewport   0 0
          		Depth     24
          		Modes	"1680x1050_60.00"
          	EndSubSection
          EndSection
          
          Section "Screen"
          	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[1]-1"
          	Device     "aticonfig-Device[1]-1"
          	Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[1]-1"
          	DefaultDepth     24
          	SubSection "Display"
          		Viewport   0 0
          		Depth     24
          	EndSubSection
          EndSection

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          • #6
            I haven't heard of three cursors before. Do they all move together ?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bridgman View Post
              I haven't heard of three cursors before. Do they all move together ?
              There are 3 mouse cursors, but each one is only active when my mouse is on that screen. Ie if I move the mouse to the center screen, then to the right screen, the center screen's mouse pointer is on the right side of the center screen where it was last dragged before going to right screen.

              Xinerama is enabled, XRandR is disabled, I would think Xinerama would take care of the mouse pointer. Haven't tried it in 9.7 yet, any idea if 9.7 might take care of that?

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              • #8
                I have the 'one cursor per monitor' problem as well. It only shows up when using Xinerama, not with BigDesktop. First started when I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04. Guess I should file a bug report or something...

                MWM

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                • #9
                  Been looking for something on aticonfig for 2+ displays. Thanks for the information... however I am still having issues with setting up three displays. I have two ati4850 and three 24in displays that I would like to get up and running on ubuntu 9.04. I tried your xorg.conf as well as running aticonfig --set-pcs-str="DDX,EnableRandR12,FALSE" on my system but I am only able to get two up and running, with the same mouse issues. Did you run into this problem? I thought it was the way my displays were connected but that did not help either. Let me know if you could provide some input. I did change the xorg.conf a bit just to reduce the res. size and screen position.

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                  • #10
                    Did you start with something like aticonfig --initial=dual-head --all -f ?

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                    • #11
                      This is what I tried:

                      aticonfig --initial=dual-head -f --adapters=all --xinerama=on

                      then I replaced the xorg.conf with the one listed above (made a few changes to res. size and posistion). I was able to get two up and running at this point.

                      I also just did an updated on my system and for some reason I lost everything. The only way I can get this up and running again it to use the older kernel version on bootup.

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                      • #12
                        If you update the kernel you might need to uninstall and reinstall the driver unless you're on a distro where all the DKMS bits are working.

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                        • #13
                          Okay forget about 9.6 I updated to 9.8 and also updated my ubuntu system and I am now able to get everything up and running.... Looking forward to using this setup for a while.

                          Thanks for the inputs....

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                          • #14
                            For those people who are looking for an easy way to get more than 2 screens working, here is what I have which works wonderfully on 3 screens 2x HP w2207 side by side and an LG television 22LG 3050 above and to the right.
                            LG (3 x hdmi, 1x vga)
                            Each HP (1x dvi, 1x vga)
                            A map of the world is above and to the left although if I wanted I am sure the Motherboard VGA output could drive a fourth screen here. I will try that when I get the time.
                            All 3 screens are running at 1680x1050
                            Operating System: Xubuntu 8.10
                            Motherboard: Sapphire Pure Hybrid Crossfire PI-AM2RS780G (780G chipset)
                            CPU: AMD64x2 from an old ASUS board (I will upgrade my CPU possibly later on)
                            Plug in graphics card: ATI Radeon HD3450
                            Drivers ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run which is downloaded as the latest ATI Catalyst Display Driver.
                            There is a setting in the Sapphire 780G motherboard bios to enable SurroundView.
                            Get familiar with ATI config in particular the commands posted by the other forum members above.
                            That gets it working although my console did complain about--adapters=all so I just left it out and used all the other commands.
                            I had to restart several times and on each step of this process tantalising improvements occured.
                            I knew that this setup was possible with the hardware I had, mainly because I have stuck with all ATI hardware and the latest ATI Catalyst Display Drivers.
                            I am not a Gamer and the hardware is all budget range stuff, so I can't vouch for high performance etc etc.
                            However the 780G Motherboard is given excellent reviews everywhere.
                            Back on topic.
                            You can expect 3 screens, (probably 4, I will test this later).
                            Application windows can be moved across and up and down as you would expect on a multi screen desktop.
                            I am very pleased and elated at having created an impressive L shaped desktop.
                            I knew that ATI were developing this and were not ignoring Linux users. Three cheers for the ATI Team.
                            I have now ordered another 2 780G motherboards.
                            Thanks.

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                            • #15
                              A couple of points after reviewing the above.

                              1) The set-pcs commands are not intended to be used by end-users, and should be considered as no different than hacking the Windows Registry or the gnome gconf config

                              2) The amdpcsdb is a database, and contains many settings that you should be careful of, again playing with the data is no different than loading up the registry database under windows or gconf config files.

                              3) Supported (as in should work from release to release) functionality for the driver is exposed via aticonfig, amdcccle and the _standard_ non-driver section settings in xorg.conf

                              4) Use of xorg.conf options for the fglrx driver section is deprecated and will most likely be ignored in the future.

                              5) Be aware that the driver is part of the PC system, the HW, the SBIOS, the VBIOS, etc all make up that system. If the BIOS makes the hardware disappear when disabling surround view, the driver is not going to try to be smarter. Some OEMs or mobo manufacturers make a decision independent of AMD that will prevent some modes of operation working.

                              All in all though, I am glad that you got it working. At least you didn't have to play whack-a-mole to get displays active on 24 displays... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Vf8R_gOec

                              Regards,

                              Matt

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