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  • Support for kernel 2.6.29?

    Is this going to come in Catalyst 9.5 yet? (Just wondering if I'm waiting for naught
    Edit: Lemme reduce the size of the question to spare bridgman: the most important bit here is knowing with reasonable certainty if it will not come, not knowing if it comes.
    Last edited by nanonyme; 05-07-2009, 09:02 AM.

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    Even if not, there will be 3rd party patches like with the current 9.4.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by RealNC View Post
      Even if not, there will be 3rd party patches like with the current 9.4.
      9-5 will not support 2.6.29 kernel... bad i know..

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
        9-5 will not support 2.6.29 kernel... bad i know..
        Sounds like I'll be packaging kernel 2.6.28 for my Fedora 11 then. It's not like it's the end of the world, just a bit of an extra nuisance.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
          9-5 will not support 2.6.29 kernel... bad i know..
          If that is true I will replace my card with nvidia this month.
          I am getting so tired of how they handle things. Only Ubuntu getting support with prereleases etc.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by egon2003 View Post
            If that is true I will replace my card with nvidia this month.
            I am getting so tired of how they handle things. Only Ubuntu getting support with prereleases etc.
            These two things have nothing to do with each other. We're talking of what a *release* might support, not if ATi could feed us with another pre-release. Though I suppose it would be fair if ATi fed to big distros a pre-release of Catalyst 9.6 if it supports 2.6.29. (Just as they gave Ubuntu a pre-release of the driver release after the next one)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by egon2003 View Post
              If that is true I will replace my card with nvidia this month.
              I am getting so tired of how they handle things. Only Ubuntu getting support with prereleases etc.
              ? thats not realy true the 9-4 first has a beta leak ... after that ubuntu become a version...

              hey cool down.. 9-5 not support 2.6.29 kernel but beta 9-6 does !

              so please buy a nvidia cart and install a 9-6 leaked catalyst on it LOL ;-)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                ? thats not realy true the 9-4 first has a beta leak ... after that ubuntu become a version...

                hey cool down.. 9-5 not support 2.6.29 kernel but beta 9-6 does !

                so please buy a nvidia cart and install a 9-6 leaked catalyst on it LOL ;-)
                The 9.4 afaik wasn't *leaked* but given to Ubuntu. Leaking a beta version is an NDA-infringement and might end you in legal trouble (I haven't read the actual NDA contract so I don't know how big the monetary compensations would be) if you get caught doing it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nanonyme View Post
                  The 9.4 afaik wasn't *leaked* but given to Ubuntu. Leaking a beta version is an NDA-infringement and might end you in legal trouble (I haven't read the actual NDA contract so I don't know how big the monetary compensations would be) if you get caught doing it.
                  NDA ? i don't signt a NDA!

                  Legal Trouble ? AMD do not sue AMD-Fan-Boy's

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                    NDA ? i don't signt a NDA!
                    Your Father or Mother ?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nille View Post
                      Your Father or Mother ?
                      not realy.-- in the end amd will leak 9-6 catalyst beta with 2.6.29 kernel support by amd self...

                      9-4 beta in ubuntu 9.04 amd leak a xserver 1,6 version...to ubuntu...

                      only on the official side amd alwys wait for the windows version becourse they haf agreemends with microsoft...

                      the 9-5 is final 1-2 weeks ago! but the WHQL Microsoft zerdifikat and the microsoft agreemend stops AMD to release the final 9-5 for linux...

                      internaly AMD have allready the 9-6 beta and 9-7 beta!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                        internaly AMD have allready the 9-6 beta and 9-7 beta!
                        This is phrased wrong. AMD puts experimental development to drivers scheduled for release two months from the next one and so there's experimental codebase for those drivers. It doesn't imply anything of beta's. Beta's mean this http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/betatester.html and getting access to *that* requires signing an NDA. Leaking those files is a breach of contract which at the very least means you're not eligible to be a beta tester anymore.
                        The file "leaked" (I don't consider it a leak since leaks are involuntary, I'm fairly certain the one was planned) to Ubuntu was not part of the beta program but a pre-release given to the distro to try to maintain a relative degree of compatibility for Ubuntu.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nanonyme View Post
                          This is phrased wrong. AMD puts experimental development to drivers scheduled for release two months from the next one and so there's experimental codebase for those drivers. It doesn't imply anything of beta's. Beta's mean this http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/betatester.html and getting access to *that* requires signing an NDA. Leaking those files is a breach of contract which at the very least means you're not eligible to be a beta tester anymore.
                          The file "leaked" (I don't consider it a leak since leaks are involuntary, I'm fairly certain the one was planned) to Ubuntu was not part of the beta program but a pre-release given to the distro to try to maintain a relative degree of compatibility for Ubuntu.
                          If you are never ever a NDA beta tester you never ever can lose your beta tester accound!

                          you don't get the fakt that the 9-5 catalyst is final 2 weeks ago!
                          they only wait for the microsoft driver and WHQL zerdificat!
                          2 weeks ago they start the 9-6 beta this week they start 9-7 beta!

                          Microsoft is the only Point to hold the 9-5-linux-catalyst bag!

                          i give a fuck abaut the beta driver programm all 3 Monds they hold the linux driver 2-3 weeks bag to simultan release with the windows one "WHQL Zerdificat" so AMD Hurts Linux becourse of they Politiks thats say "Windows driver first".

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                          • #14
                            Well 2.6.29 support can be patched, with a smaller patch, when your distro provides some extra files or a very huge one. But 2.6.30 seems to be really problematic. When you make it compile then it uses 2 symbols which are not in the kernel anymore, one could possibly patched, but the other is in the binary part, so no go. I do not understand that when ati only provides drivers for the latest cards that they are not able to try a new kernel. Ubuntu even has got a collection of every mainline kernel incl. rc, so they would not even require to compile it on their own. Nvidia somehow manages for their current cards, for the others i am still waiting for official 2.6.30 support but 2.6.29 is there for every card.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kano View Post
                              Well 2.6.29 support can be patched, with a smaller patch, when your distro provides some extra files or a very huge one. But 2.6.30 seems to be really problematic. When you make it compile then it uses 2 symbols which are not in the kernel anymore, one could possibly patched, but the other is in the binary part, so no go. I do not understand that when ati only provides drivers for the latest cards that they are not able to try a new kernel. Ubuntu even has got a collection of every mainline kernel incl. rc, so they would not even require to compile it on their own. Nvidia somehow manages for their current cards, for the others i am still waiting for official 2.6.30 support but 2.6.29 is there for every card.
                              Afaik ATi only targets enterprise Linux releases. Go check how new kernel eg RHEL has.

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