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  • #16
    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    Is there any chance you're mixing status of the open and closed drivers ? The Catalyst driver (closed source) has supported 3D acceleration on HD2xxx and above boards for a long time; it's the *open* source Mesa driver which is just picking up HD (6xx/7xx) support now.

    A few people have reported crashes running HD4xxx X2 boards with Catalyst and Ubuntu Jaunty, maybe that's what you're thinking of ? AFAIK those problems are specific to Jaunty support and do not occur on Intrepid.



    Just curious, where are you getting these release dates ? I know some people expect us to release on the same date every month but that's not the way it works.
    I downloaded the Windows and Linux 9.5 drivers from the links that were posted by users at the forums.amd.com. These links pointed to the same servers that are used for the "official" 9.4 drivers.

    Apparently these links have now been disabled and a moderator on that amd forum has mentioned that the drivers are delayed until monday. The moderator also mentioned that if you already obtained these files "manually" like I did you won't need to download them again at that time.

    But in the meanwhile, I have already found the problem I mentioned above with using these drivers on a motherboard with a built in ATI HD3300. The lockup problem with Ubuntu 9.04 may or may not have fixed, and the problems with the drives for users with "x2" cards may also be fixed, but it doesn't matter to me: the same or very similar system lockup still exists on my system. I would have to buy a new motherboard without the integrated ATI HD3300 to get these drivers to work. (Because as I said above disabling the HD3300 in BIOS does not fix the problem.)

    I may get a new motherboard... it is possible. Then this problem would be solved. The one I have now was bought when my older 790FX motherboard started having problems. (So I bought the only AM2+ board I could get locally on a sunday.) I might go ahead and get a new Phenom 955 AM3 chip and a new AM3 motherboard and new DDR3 memory. But I'm kind of waiting to find out about the 890 chipset release and benefits.

    In the meanwhile it would be good to get a fixed driver that will allow me to use the motherboard I have now. (Or figure out how to tell the driver to completely ignore the onboard HD3300 OR how to see the first discrete video card which is at the PCI:3:0:0 port. If there is a xorg.conf or aticonfig way to tell it to do that. Adding the PCI port in the xorg.conf doesnt' work.)
    Last edited by keithlm; 05-16-2009, 01:59 PM.

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    • #17
      OK, once I figured out you weren't XAKEP everything made a lot more sense j

      The links normally go active a day or so before the driver is officially posted so we can do some end-to-end testing and finalize the release notes. Nothing is official until we announce, although as the mod said the initial links are usually the ones we keep.

      I'm guessing which OS you are using, based on your comments above Ubuntu 8.10 seems most likely. Am I close ?

      I looked around to see if you had posted an Xorg log and didn't see one; can you pastebin a long from one of the failing configs ? Best would be 3300 plus single 4850.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by bridgman View Post
        OK, once I figured out you weren't XAKEP everything made a lot more sense j

        The links normally go active a day or so before the driver is officially posted so we can do some end-to-end testing and finalize the release notes. Nothing is official until we announce, although as the mod said the initial links are usually the ones we keep.

        I'm guessing which OS you are using, based on your comments above Ubuntu 8.10 seems most likely. Am I close ?

        I looked around to see if you had posted an Xorg log and didn't see one; can you pastebin a long from one of the failing configs ? Best would be 3300 plus single 4850.
        Same problem with Ubuntu 8.10 OR 9.04; the 9.5 and 9.4 drivers do the same thing.

        UPDATE:
        Onboard 3300 works alone.

        Single 4850 works in PEG1 slot with 3300 enabled or disabled IF video is plugged into 4850. The 3300 is not seen by the OS (dmesg) regardless of whether it is enabled in the bios or not. I am going to again test with the monitor plugged to the 3300 and the single 4890 installed.

        PCI NOTE: The single 4850 ends up using PCI 1:0:0.When the X2 card is plugged in... the X2 uses 3:0:0 and 4:0:0 and somehow it makes the single 4850 card use 5:0:0. So nothing is on 1:0:0 at that time.

        (Going to test more.)

        PS. I'll post some logs when I get more details and figure out what is happening a bit more.

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        • #19
          Sounds good. I wonder if there are hard-coded PCI bus addresses in the xorg conf which are causing you grief when cards are added or removed ?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bridgman View Post
            Sounds good. I wonder if there are hard-coded PCI bus addresses in the xorg conf which are causing you grief when cards are added or removed ?
            No because I'm changing them to correctly point to whatever is shown in the DMESG.

            Anyway... no success on the 4850x2 even when used alone.

            Looking more.

            BTW: Xorg.0.log below created right after doing he following following:

            Starting with default (failsafe) xorg.conf:
            aticonfig --initial -f
            aticonfig --cfa --adapter=all
            aticonfig --cf=on --adapter=all
            <reboot>

            http://pastebin.com/m75522287

            (Locks up on black screen. Doesn't matter if I do the --cfa/--cf=on or not... it will lock up.)
            Last edited by keithlm; 05-16-2009, 05:21 PM.

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            • #21
              what happened with single 4850 ? Do you have displays on both 4850 and 3300 when trying single 4850 ?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                what happened with single 4850 ? Do you have displays on both 4850 and 3300 when trying single 4850 ?
                The single 4850 worked. Only the 4850 worked; the 3300 disappeared.

                (And of course 4850x2 is a no show.)

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                • #23
                  So is it really 9.5 and does it improve anything at all ? Will 4870 work ??

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                  • #24
                    The link is probably 9.5; we'll know for sure when it's announced and the download page is updated.

                    The question is really will it work on *your* 4870; 4870s have been supported for almost a year. I think the folks on #ati might have been talking to you about the open source drivers rather than the Catalyst driver.

                    When 9.5 comes out, uninstall your current fglrx driver (if you haven't already done so), then build and install package(s) for your distro. Don't use the generic installer. Remember to run aticonfig --initial before starting X with the driver.

                    I believe there is a special option for aticonf --initial when you have a crossfire board. Should be in aticonfig -- help, post back if it isn't.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                      The link is probably 9.5; we'll know for sure when it's announced and the download page is updated.

                      The question is really will it work on *your* 4870; 4870s have been supported for almost a year. I think the folks on #ati might have been talking to you about the open source drivers rather than the Catalyst driver.

                      When 9.5 comes out, uninstall your current fglrx driver (if you haven't already done so), then build and install package(s) for your distro. Don't use the generic installer. Remember to run aticonfig --initial before starting X with the driver.

                      I believe there is a special option for aticonf --initial when you have a crossfire board. Should be in aticonfig -- help, post back if it isn't.
                      would you be kind enouth to explain steps and code I need to take to make this thing work. Because other that aticonfig --initial I don't know anything else .....let's say it's a clean install on 9.04

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by XAKEP View Post
                        would you be kind enouth to explain steps and code I need to take to make this thing work. Because other that aticonfig --initial I don't know anything else .....let's say it's a clean install on 9.04
                        http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page

                        Choose the distro you use on the right, then the version. Inside it shows how to create the packages so you can install manually.

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                        • #27
                          Haven't heard a thing about this bug being fixed: Has anyone been able to get a 4850x2 or 4870x2 working with the 9.5 driver and Ubuntu 9.04? (Or even 8.10 for that matter... I couldn't get it to work there either.)

                          EDIT: Update: 5/29 Got it working on 8.10:

                          I re-installed 8.10 and manually installed the 9.5 driver. (Create packages, etc.)
                          Then I did these 3 commands:
                          aticonfig --initial -f --adapter=all
                          aticonfig --cfa --adapter=all
                          aticonfig --cf=on --adapter=all
                          Reboot.

                          IT WORKS. Finally. But 9.04 was definitely not working before I reloaded. (Yet again.) I think I didnt' try 9.5 on 8.10... but had tried 9.4 which did not work.

                          So now... it's phoronix time!
                          Last edited by keithlm; 05-29-2009, 07:05 PM.

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