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    Phoronix: What Goes On Within AMD's Linux Beta Program?

    This year NVIDIA has been following the release early, release often mantra with it seeming like two weeks can't even go by without seeing a new Linux driver -- whether it's a beta driver, an official driver update, or one of their legacy drivers picking up a few fixes (at times they have even released four drivers at once). On the opposite spectrum, AMD continues with monthly Catalyst driver updates on both Linux and windows. Rather than a continual stream of new public driver releases, AMD maintains a private beta program for their Catalyst Linux driver. This private program is made up of AMD developers, hardware vendors, users of different Linux distributions, other Linux vendors, and end-users. Phoronix has been apart of this program for years, but those testing this driver are under a strict Non-Disclosure Agreement with AMD regarding pre-releases of their Linux software. Today, however, AMD has decided to declassify some information pertaining to its Linux Graphics Driver Beta Program.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=13584

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    Well, imho this isn't interesting at all...

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    • #3
      I'm not sure if it's me or if because I'm tired after a working day but, what is this article trying to say? I really havent understood

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      • #4
        I think a closed beta program is ok in a beginning stage of a new development which definitely contains bugs that you do not want to explain any new user. But after a while things calm down and most of the major bugs are resolved. If you don't have to expect damage to your pc/data with it, then those pre official release drivers should be made available. I don't think that would hurt ATI in any way, but they would get more feedback. There are lots of people out here who have got problems with the fglrx driver, and the only hope for em is a new driver, so restricting access for em means waiting 2-3 months longer than needed if there would be a fix inbetween. If you want a fast solution then you have to buy a new card. NV has problems with some specific cards which have not been sorted out yet too, but at least they provide more updates when they introduce something new like VDPAU which needs more fixes. Before VDPAU/KDE4 you mainly only got a few updates, much less than the 12 for fglrx udpates a year. But before KDE4 there have been only few complains about NV and for every new kernel you got patches to make the current drivers work with it. That's the absolute minimum requirement that ATI has to do: provide OFFICIAL kernel patches even for legacy drivers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kano View Post
          That's the absolute minimum requirement that ATI has to do: provide OFFICIAL kernel patches even for legacy drivers.
          super quote!

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          • #6
            How can I participate in the Beta Programm?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Odin View Post
              How can I participate in the Beta Programm?

              Like a vampire covenant. One of the old ones has to bring you in .

              Only the AMD people can add you to the program, but members can make recommendations.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                I'm not sure if it's me or if because I'm tired after a working day but, what is this article trying to say? I really havent understood
                Something about generating ad revenue.

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                • #9
                  More on AMD's Linux release cycle and philosophy can be found in The Truth About ATI/AMD & Linux.
                  I have seen this mistake so often on Phoronix, so now I must mention it

                  It is bad practice to start a sentence or head line with "More on" because it sounds like "Moron" when you read it.

                  You will never see a news paper do that.

                  One of my English profs explained the importance of thinking through
                  sentence structure so as not to be phonetically or grammatically
                  careless, i.e. 'Me and Jim went to the arcade' as it could sound like
                  'Mean Jim went to the arcade', proper grammar is 'Jim and I went to
                  the arcade.'

                  Byt please no more "More on"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Melcar View Post
                    Like a vampire covenant. One of the old ones has to bring you in .

                    Only the AMD people can add you to the program, but members can make recommendations.
                    Yo, I want in on this. I vow to complain early and complain often. I'll be a QC machine.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Louise View Post
                      I have seen this mistake so often on Phoronix, so now I must mention it

                      It is bad practice to start a sentence or head line with "More on" because it sounds like "Moron" when you read it.

                      You will never see a news paper do that.

                      One of my English profs explained the importance of thinking through
                      sentence structure so as not to be phonetically or grammatically
                      careless, i.e. 'Me and Jim went to the arcade' as it could sound like
                      'Mean Jim went to the arcade', proper grammar is 'Jim and I went to
                      the arcade.'

                      Byt please no more "More on"
                      Lol . And I was laughing on a BBC news article about Eurovision axing the Ukranian entry "We don't want to put in".

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                      • #12
                        Jeez, Michael! Your articles are becoming like ATi Drivers.... SHIT, SHIT, really fukin SHIT.

                        This year NVIDIA has been following the "release early, release often" mantra with it seeming like two weeks can't even go by without seeing a new Linux driver -- whether it's a beta driver, an official driver update, or one of their legacy drivers picking up a few fixes (at times they have even released four drivers at once).
                        Thats really wordy. Who wrote that? Its impossible to read. Try this:

                        Originally posted by cxo
                        Picking up new fixes, for either beta, official or legacy drivers, Nvidia's new mantra of "release early, release often" makes it seem as if not even two weeks goes by before the release of a new Linux driver.
                        The sentence is still pretty wordy, but at least it makes a little sense now. Try to have an objective in each paragraph, and try not to obscure its meaning. You aren't writing a novel. Expecting "good" literary content on the internet are of days gone by, so dont sweat it. Keep it simple.

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                        Phoronix has been apart of this program for years ...
                        Thats really sad. Why dont you ask ATi if they would make you a part of their program.

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                        ... but those testing this driver are under a strict Non-Disclosure Agreement with AMD regarding pre-releases of their Linux software.
                        C'mon, this is worse than the opening paragraph.
                        Try this
                        Originally posted by cxo
                        ... but those testing pre-release software are under a strict Non-Disclosure Agreement with AMD
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                        Today, however, AMD has decided to declassify some information pertaining to its Linux Graphics Driver Beta Program.
                        You need to stop talking to yourself when you write articles.
                        Originally posted by cxo
                        However, today AMD has decided to declassify some information pertaining to its Linux Graphics Driver Beta Program.
                        Proper use of discourse markers and 1 less comma = better sentence. Just feel the flow. Feel it flow.

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                        AMD's target participants for beta Linux driver testing is the general public, OEMs, ODMs, Linux vendors, ISVs, IHVs, open-source community members, enterprise and channel customers, and enthusiasts.
                        participants = plural
                        is = singular
                        It should be:
                        Originally posted by cxo
                        AMD's target participants for beta Linux driver testing are the general public, OEMs, ODMs, Linux vendors, ISVs, IHVs, open-source community members, enthusiasts and both enterprise and channel customers.
                        by the way, wtf is a channel "customer"?

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                        Not covered on this private beta list is normally any direct tech support, an AMD question answering session, access to AMD developers, access to proprietary source-code, or access to hardware and driver road-maps.
                        Fuk. This is just rubbish. Michael! unlike cheapskates like me, you have "PAYING" readership. Give them at least their $2.50 worth a month, would ya.

                        Originally posted by cxo
                        The private beta list is not an AMD QA session, nor is it meant to facilitate any direct tech support, provides access to AMD developers, proprietary source code or hardware and driver road-maps.
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                        Its a good thing I usually only stop by to see benchmarks. Otherwise I'd have lost my mind by now reading this type of material.

                        Michael, there is a good book, part of the Reader's Digests collection called... "How To Read And Write Better" - Please buy it, and read it. You can order it directly from Reader's Digest. Even ebay seems to have had a copy, http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI....m=380089724189

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                        • #13
                          Jeez cruiseoveride, you really live up to your screen name.
                          Although what I find unfortunate is that override is spelled with 2 R's.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cruiseoveride View Post
                            Jeez, Michael! Your articles are becoming like ATi Drivers.... SHIT, SHIT, really fukin SHIT.
                            Apologies... I'll make more of an effort to write with better grammar in future articles. The fact of the matter is each day I usually end up writing at least one article, benchmarking various pieces of hardware, writing between one and five news posts, working on the Phoronix Test Suite, working on other Phoronix Media properties, and working on my other company too. By the end of the day I am very exhausted.
                            Michael Larabel
                            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BlueKoala View Post
                              Jeez cruiseoveride, you really live up to your screen name.
                              Although what I find unfortunate is that override is spelled with 2 R's.
                              Yeah, i'm still in court with the Oxford English Dictionary about that.

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