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  • #46
    Ubuntu is "Linux for human beings", Arch is "Linux for computers and people who aren't afraid of them". Having said that, I use Ubuntu because I'm a long-time Debian/dpkg fan and I haven't had a reason to install a new OS on my computer since I first loaded up Ubuntu

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    • #47
      I don't get whats so great with Ubuntu. The kernel is good, I help em personally to support some specific kinds of hardware better in case something is broken because I reuse the kernel for my own distro. But besides the kernel there is not much difference when you would compare Debian 5.0 default GNOME install with Ubuntu 8.10. GNOME looks as ugly as usual on both. Ok, I prefer KDE 3.5 series, fast, no problems compared to new KDE 4 series with some gfx drivers. From points of support U always loses against pure Debian. Their main repository is really small, maybe 1000 vs 23000 packages in the rest. And full support you get only for the main one. Even if Debian would fix security issues with other packages (outside main) they do not get into Ubuntu, maybe some with universe security updates.

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      • #48
        Ubuntu is great for keeping the "z0mg it doesn't work 1 d3mand y00 fixor it NOW or else" crowd out of Debian

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        • #49
          Originally posted by susikala View Post
          Last I checked, Ubuntu had over 2000 hits per days on Distrowatch. Arch Linux is apparently barely at 600, that's the difference for you.
          If articles and reporting are done purely on popularity then there should be far more articles done on openSUSE then Fedora.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by RealNC View Post
            Ubuntu is great for keeping the "z0mg it doesn't work 1 d3mand y00 fixor it NOW or else" crowd out of Debian
            Yes, great picture But many advanced Linux users are using Kubuntu too of course.

            @Kano

            Is Debian such noobie resistant as Ubuntu is? :> In my opinion some trivial simplifications make a lot of difference in this case. Btw. the worst thing in Ubuntu is they chose gnome as primary desktop environment. There was a time when KDE4 wasn't stable, but now it is. It's great time to change IMHO.

            @deanjo

            It works this way - more clicks on distro title = it's more popular on distrowatch

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            • #51
              Originally posted by kraftman View Post
              There was a time when KDE4 wasn't stable, but now it is. It's great time to change IMHO.
              Imagine the flamage on the lists and forums...

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              • #52
                Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                @deanjo

                It works this way - more clicks on distro title = it's more popular on distrowatch
                I realize that, that's why if you were going use distrowatch as a measuring stick for articles then openSUSE should have more articles then Fedora.

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                • #53
                  On topic, I just wrote officially that the drivers will be dropped. Thanks for the support on this matter, (Arch) / Linux community.

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                  • #54
                    who cares? Archlinux is broken by design - a good example of how not to do a distribution.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by energyman View Post
                      who cares? Archlinux is broken by design - a good example of how not to do a distribution.
                      Arch is an ideal distribution for someone who doesn't want to spend all day compiling apps and who wants rolling distro.

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                      • #56
                        I think in the end this will only hurt Arch, assuming they have a big ATI user base to begin with. Plus, I'm sure someone in the community will eventually step up to the challenge.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                          Arch is an ideal distribution for someone who doesn't want to spend all day compiling apps and who wants rolling distro.
                          wrong. With its broken versioning and downgrading it is the worst possible distribution for anybody who wants rolling updates.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by energyman View Post
                            wrong. With its broken versioning and downgrading it is the worst possible distribution for anybody who wants rolling updates.
                            Which is better if I don't want to compile packages?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by energyman View Post
                              wrong. With its broken versioning and downgrading it is the worst possible distribution for anybody who wants rolling updates.
                              Broken versioning ? says who ?

                              Troll detected.

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                              • #60
                                @energyman, you just want to take the time to tell us your achievement frustrations?

                                @Melcar, 10% of our users use ati open source driver. 9% use catalyst, so no not many users use catalyst, not even ati at all, nvidia is used by 43% of the users.

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