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    Phoronix: Catalyst 9.2 Released, Still Fails To Deliver XvBA

    A day after the ATI Catalyst 9.2 driver update was issued for Windows, Catalyst 9.2 for Linux is now available. However, there really isn't much at all to see with this release...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzA4MA

  • #2
    No real changes :-/
    Well maybe it is time to buy some other graphic card. i wish Intel would build motherboards with a IGP. :-(

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    • #3
      What about this title:

      Catalyst 9.2 Released: The NeverEnding Failure.


      I also love this Known Issue that they state in their Release Notes:

      "With some system configurations Catalyst Control Center may take up to 30 seconds to start."

      I wonder how "dirty" is fglrx code. I think they can't handle the code anymore for how bad/messed up it is.
      Last edited by bulletxt; 02-20-2009, 03:03 PM.

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      • #4
        CCC takes like 15sec. to load on my main machine (Intrepid 64bit), yet it loads instantly on my laptop (Intrepid 32bit). This only really started happening since 9.1 really. Go figure.

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        • #5
          Canabyst 1.0omega Released: HI! We are completely new dev team.
          Last edited by dungeon; 02-20-2009, 03:41 PM.

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          • #6
            Well could not test yet, but there are 5 readded devices:
            Code:
            RADEON 9500 (RADEON 9500 4144)
            RADEON 9600TX (RADEON 9600TX 4146)
            RADEON 9700 PRO (RADEON 9700 PRO 4E44)
            RADEON 9500 PRO / 9700 (RADEON 9500 PRO / 9700 4E45)
            ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series (M10-P 4E50)
            Also the name changed from 9-1 to 9.2. Basically 8-x was used from 8-3 on... My script currently defaults to it.

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            • #7
              You guys are just ravenous. At least wait for the field tests to come in.

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              • #8
                More or less the same as 9.1, except:
                * aticonfig now, for the first time, says that POWERplay is not supported by my GPU. Strangely, I've been using POWERplay for many fglrx-releases (via the old atieventsd method), but support is obviously completely gone now. Even more funny is that "Auto powerstates" still seems to be enabled by default, and this crashes X when I unplug AC. So I still need to do an "aticonfig --auto-powerstates=off" to get stable operation, even though the driver says POWERplay is unsupported with "aticonfig --lsp" !

                Otherwise, much the same. XVideo still unusably slow with Compiz, works OK without.

                A few positive points:
                * General performance is obviously improved in the later Catalyst-releases, both 2D and 3D, it's never been this good before (if disregarding video). Easily noticable when using Compiz.
                * Execpt for the problems mentioned above, the driver is stable, even if running Compiz and using suspend/resume.


                --
                ATI X1400 Radeon mobile, Ubuntu 8.10 x86.

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                • #9
                  Funny drivers There is so much bugs and everybody waits and they only fix the minor things. Sixteen bug in 21 days it isn't even a one poor bug per day. There is only one i can say:

                  Choose nvidia, have no problems I did so, now it's you turn ...
                  Last edited by NSLW; 02-20-2009, 04:32 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by oyvind View Post
                    A few positive points:
                    * General performance is obviously improved in the later Catalyst-releases, both 2D and 3D, it's never been this good before (if disregarding video). Easily noticable when using Compiz.
                    I'm seeing *drastic* improvements with video playback using XV. I don't know if it applies across the board to all cards, but for me, it's dramatically better than 9.1. No more distortions and Xine doesn't flake out anymore.

                    Wow. Color me almost satisifed.

                    Edit: OpenGL apps + composite are still bad. Google earth still flickers like a candle if you've got desktop effects enabled in KDE4.
                    Last edited by jonnycat26; 02-20-2009, 04:50 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NSLW View Post
                      Funny drivers There is so much bugs and everybody waits and they only fix the minor things. There is only one i can say:

                      Choose nvidia, have no problems I did so, now it's you turn ...
                      One cannot always choose that easily.. I have nvidia on some machines, and I'm very pleased with that. The ATI-card is in my work laptop, and it's a Lenovo that I really like, and I chose it because it's generally nice Also, Lenovo's nvidia-offerings were few and far apart at the time (couple of years ago, I guess).

                      However, life is not care-free with nVidia binary driver. Look at nvnews-forum, and you'll see quite a lot of people having problems with nvidia as well. I have another laptop with a nVidia GeForce Go 6600 in it, and only just now, with the latest 180.29-driver, and after quite a few years(!), are things working without any significant problem (except for VCs getting garbled beyond recognition when X initializes , and xrandr shows no available resolutions except flat panel native). Luck, if you can call it that, most definitely plays a role with nvidia-hw+Linux as well.
                      Last edited by oyvind; 02-20-2009, 04:45 PM. Reason: Typo ..

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jonnycat26 View Post
                        I'm seeing *drastic* improvements with video playback using XV. I don't know if it applies across the board to all cards, but for me, it's dramatically better than 9.1. No more distortions and Xine doesn't flake out anymore.

                        Wow. Color me almost satisifed.
                        Cool 4 u

                        My main problem with XVideo is the general drop in performance in the later Catalyst-releases, and especially when using Compiz. I don't expect it to be perfect in Compiz, because I realize the current limitations in DRI framework and X, but at least AMD should be able to do as well as the open source alternatives. Maybe my GPU is getting too old for AMD to bother prioritizing it.

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                        • #13
                          I installed the leaked Catalyst 9.2 beta on 15th of january. This was before the official catalyst 9.1 was released. The version number of the files inside are fglrx_*_8.580_*.
                          The files inside the new catalyst 9.2 final are version 8.582.
                          Seams to be not so much progress. Don't know, what version number 9.1 was but I wonder what they do in over a month.

                          regards

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                          • #14
                            Catalyst 9.2 Released, Still Fails To Deliver XvBA
                            Catalyst is generally a fail

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by oyvind View Post
                              My main problem with XVideo is the general drop in performance in the later Catalyst-releases, and especially when using Compiz. I don't expect it to be perfect in Compiz, because I realize the current limitations in DRI framework and X, but at least AMD should be able to do as well as the open source alternatives. Maybe my GPU is getting too old for AMD to bother prioritizing it.
                              Oyvind, how would you summarize the performance difference :

                              - cpu util is higher so maxed out there ?

                              - seems like GPU is maxed out; gets slower when the playback window is bigger ?

                              - seems like something else is slow; CPU not maxed and speed doesn't change when playback window is bigger/smaller ?

                              My guess is that the problem is more related to your GPU being relatively small than to its age. We are reaching the point where it's getting difficult to make a single driver which takes full advantage of new hardware and doesn't overload older hardware (without making it essentially two different drivers duct-taped together).

                              AFAIK your X1400 is what we call an RV515 with 4 pixel shaders. The new fglrx video stack probably does more complex video processing than the code in the open source driver (to get better video quality) and the result is that the GPU is maxing out.

                              I'm not sure if there are any options in aticonfig or cccle for disabling video quality options but it would be worth checking. It would also be useful for someone with a high-end 5xx (same age but more shader power) to see how the recent drivers perform on their GPUs. I suspect that their video performance would be fine -- in which case the simpler shaders on the open source driver might be a better fit for your GPU.
                              Last edited by bridgman; 02-20-2009, 06:01 PM.

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