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  • #46
    Originally posted by energyman View Post
    no, I see the same. With my 8600GT dpms worked, with my HD3870 it does not
    Thanks for the answer. I just installed the radeohd driver and the DPMS works! Unfortunately the radeonhd can't do much else, but at least I know it can work.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Kano View Post
      Then his card must be really old. Most fixes are for GF8+. Older drivers got last update over 6 month ago. Ok, compared to fglrx which supports (in theory) all DX8+ cards you get more updates for fglrx, but the driver quality and feature support (look at VDPAU) is better with NV.
      really old - like a 7900 (afaik)?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Linuxhippy View Post
        After all, that makes the ATI HD series the only modern GPU generation without descent 2D accaleration.
        - Intel's drivers are EXA based, with full composition and solid support
        - OpenChrome via drivers accalerate composition
        - NVidia has introduced an excellent RENDER accaleration in 177.80 drivers, even the reverse engineered nouveau driver accalerated composition.
        - radeonhd has experimental/unstable/broken accaleration for some composite operations. No idea how long this will take to mature, and I guess it will take even longer to enter fglrx if that should happen at all.
        the radeon driver has pretty solid EXA/ Render support. It was just the EXA implementation itself holding it back, but with Xserver1.6 everything flies. Just try a Jaunty liveCD.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Kano View Post
          Depends, the newer Ubuntu packageing works better, it just leaves the /etc/ati dir, which you should purge manually after install. I gave up using the Debian packageing because it was broken by default - I fixed it at the beginning but then never used it again. I don't know of other packages, only those which I use in my script.
          Still no luck with fglrx-uninstall.sh and manual remove of /etc/ati. Do you know where are all the fglrx files for manual remove ?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Tares View Post
            Still no luck with fglrx-uninstall.sh and manual remove of /etc/ati. Do you know where are all the fglrx files for manual remove ?
            To get rid of fglrx in Ubuntu open Synaptic and install the Ubuntu fglrx, then uninstall. This will clean up a lot and restore symlinks to default.

            I also delete xorg.conf then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to generate a clean xorg.conf.

            I hope this helps, I change my video a lot, switching between my HD3450 and the onbord G33, because fglrx causes me such grief. I live in hope that radeon, radeonhd and ati all merge into a great open source driver that just works and I can forget fglrx forever.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by energyman View Post
              a nvidia using friend of mine really loves the nvidia drivers! With them the text in some kde menus (like the one to add plasmoids) is white on white - whatever he does to change that, it does not help .... he is using nouveau now ...
              I don't see how this relates to the original topic, it seems the old phenomena - people defending their hardware
              I don't even use a NVidia GPU, the only one I have is a GF6600 I plug in sometimes to test my software on.

              As I said I am not a fanboy of anyone and I am not interested in a flame, I also explicitly said their drivers *do* have problems, but so do the ATI drivers...

              the radeon driver has pretty solid EXA/ Render support.
              Yes the readeon driver does pretty well for RENDER, but only for R500 and below. There's no accaleration code for R600 and up, released in early 2007.

              - Clemens
              Last edited by Linuxhippy; 01-10-2009, 07:09 AM.

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              • #52
                Installed these drivers:

                1. no - or very slight - improvement to compiz

                2. aticonfig --odgc returns "ERROR - Could not find library: libatiadlxx.so"

                Haven't tried video playback yet.

                Maybe amd should consider a public beta program?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Kano View Post
                  Then his card must be really old. Most fixes are for GF8+. Older drivers got last update over 6 month ago. Ok, compared to fglrx which supports (in theory) all DX8+ cards you get more updates for fglrx.
                  Nah, DX8 cards have been abandoned long ago. The last fglrx supporting them was even before the "Catalyst for Linux" appeared; last release for them was fglrx 8.28.8. Everything after that was DX9+ only (Radeon 9500 and above).

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                  • #54
                    Right, they are DX9, but not the fastest ones So basically only GF5 series has lower status from the DX9 NV cards then.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by energyman View Post
                      are you sure you installed it correctly?
                      Yes.

                      The problem is the first screen "login screen" appear with lots lots lots pixels of lots lots colors. You can't read anything.

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                      • #56
                        btw, friend just told me that composite with the latest stable nvidia is still broken. If you try to 'pull' marked text in ff, composite is switched off. The good news - the same happens with ati. So both are broken.

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                        • #57
                          Well I personally don't need composite. I prefer using vdpau without tearing. Desktop 3d effects are nice to show some V user that Linux can handle more 3d then V, but for everyday use nobody really needs it. U enables it by default and uses only minimal effects, you would hardy see a difference when it is out anyway.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Kano View Post
                            Well I personally don't need composite. I prefer using vdpau without tearing. Desktop 3d effects are nice to show some V user that Linux can handle more 3d then V, but for everyday use nobody really needs it. U enables it by default and uses only minimal effects, you would hardy see a difference when it is out anyway.
                            Well, I need it for everyday use. I run Ubuntu on an HTPC and a 720P plasma screen. When I am using that computer and browsing the web from 10 feet away, text is unreadable. I use the 'zoom' feature of compiz to make the text of the article I am reading large enough to fill the screen. I do this reading Phoronix forums ALL THE TIME. (Although I am using an XP desktop at the moment). I also use it to zoom in on undersized video clips in web pages and make them as big as I want. Everybody's individual use case is different.

                            I've read a lot of your posts on Phoronix and I respect your knowledge of Linux. It is far greater than mine, but I am just getting sick of reading people state that composite desktop features have to value, just because they don't use it.

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                            • #59
                              Maybe you don't know that FF has like all common web browsers a built-in function to resize text when you hold ctrl + use mouse wheel?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Kano View Post
                                Maybe you don't know that FF has like all common web browsers a built-in function to resize text when you hold ctrl + use mouse wheel?
                                I personally prefer CTRL + "+", I hate to take my hands off the keyboard, but good trick anyway.

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