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  • #31
    @Jade

    REMOVE ALL MODELINES

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Kano View Post
      @Jade

      REMOVE ALL MODELINES
      The xorg.conf file (used to produce the log of the previous page) had no custom modelines at all.

      It is posted below.
      Last edited by Jade; 11-29-2008, 09:38 AM.

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      • #33
        Jade, I believe the log contained entries which implied that there were modelines in the conf file.

        I'm pretty far from an expert in that area, but it sure looked like a problem in the conf file to me.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by bridgman View Post
          Jade, I believe the log contained entries which implied that there were modelines in the conf file.

          I'm pretty far from an expert in that area, but it sure looked like a problem in the conf file to me.
          NOPE. There were no custom modelines in the Sax generated xorg.conf file and I added none before creating the log.

          Below is the exact xorg.config file that produced the log on the previous page.

          It was produced by SaX. It has had few extraneous sections (eg the extra Depth subsections) deleted and the line

          Modes "800x600"

          changed to

          Modes "1280x1024"

          in an attempt to get 1280x1024 resolution.

          The Modes "800x600" line starts the X-server with 800x600 resolution as expected (by viewing the log).

          The Modes "1280x1024" line causes the X-server to die as expected (and produces the log of the previous page).

          --------------------------------------------

          Adding correct modelines causes the X-server to work and produces the correct screen size, even though the X-server explicitly says a mode is bad.

          For example, adding a correct 1152x864 modeline to the Section "Monitor"

          Section "Monitor"
          ......
          ......
          ......
          # 1152x864 @ 60Hz hsync: 53.7kHz
          Modeline "1152x864" 81.642 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 +hsync +vsync
          EndSection

          causes the X-server to bring up an 1152x864 resolution screen, even though the X-server explicitly states this mode is bad:

          (II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)

          --------------------------------------------

          # /.../
          # SaX generated X11 config file
          # Created on: 2008-10-11T21:20:08+0000.
          #
          # Version: 7.1
          # Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2002
          #
          # Automatically generated by [ISaX] (7.1)
          # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
          #

          Section "Files"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/Type1"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
          FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xtest"
          FontPath "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
          EndSection

          Section "ServerFlags"
          Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
          EndSection

          Section "Module"
          Load "dbe"
          Load "type1"
          Load "freetype"
          Load "extmod"
          Load "glx"
          Load "v4l"
          EndSection

          Section "InputDevice"
          Driver "kbd"
          Identifier "Keyboard[0]"
          Option "Protocol" "Standard"
          Option "XkbLayout" "us"
          Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
          Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
          EndSection


          Section "InputDevice"
          Driver "mouse"
          Identifier "Mouse[1]"
          Option "Buttons" "7"
          Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
          Option "Name" "ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse"
          Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
          Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
          Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
          EndSection


          Section "Monitor"
          HorizSync 31-58
          Identifier "Monitor[0]"
          ModelName "800X600@60HZ"
          Option "DPMS"
          VendorName "--> VESA"
          VertRefresh 50-61
          EndSection

          Section "Screen"
          DefaultDepth 16
          SubSection "Display"
          Depth 16
          Modes "1280x1024"
          EndSubSection
          Device "Device[0]"
          Identifier "Screen[0]"
          Monitor "Monitor[0]"
          EndSection


          Section "Device"
          BoardName "GD 5446"
          BusID "0:2:0"
          Driver "cirrus"
          Identifier "Device[0]"
          VendorName "Cirrus Logic"
          EndSection


          Section "ServerLayout"
          Identifier "Layout[all]"
          InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
          InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
          Option "Clone" "off"
          Option "Xinerama" "off"
          Screen "Screen[0]"
          EndSection

          Section "DRI"
          Group "video"
          Mode 0660
          EndSection

          Section "Extensions"
          EndSection
          Last edited by Jade; 11-29-2008, 09:44 AM.

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          • #35
            This is not needed, so you can remove:

            HorizSync 31-58
            VertRefresh 50-61

            Also has this card more than 2 MB VRAM? Because

            1280x1024x2 = 2621440
            1152x864x2 = 1990656

            so if you think logical you need more VRAM or you have to try 8 bit.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kano View Post
              Also has this card more than 2 MB VRAM?.
              If you read the log on the previous page, one of the first lines is:

              (--) CIRRUS(0): VideoRAM: 4096 kByte

              So, guess what? The card has more than 2 MB VRAM.

              So the claim of SABOTAGE stands.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jade
                It is an example of how the cirrus X-server and standard modelines were deliberately made to not work for all but a few (5) screen sizes and refresh rates.
                Or, you know, it could be that the Cirrus server hardly gets much testing anymore, since their chips haven't been popular for over a decade (QEMU notwithstanding).

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View Post
                  Or, you know, it could be that the Cirrus server hardly gets much testing anymore, since their chips haven't been popular for over a decade (QEMU notwithstanding).
                  NOPE. The Vesa driver gives exactly the same results.

                  The SABOTAGE is clear.

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                  • #39
                    So, Cirrus cards are sabotaged in X, but others are not?

                    What exactly are you claiming?

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                    • #40
                      The VESA driver finds even less suitable modelines (than the cirrus driver).

                      Also, the VESA driver gives much less relevant information.

                      It only tells you that it has found 3 suitable modelines (it doesn't "find" the 1152x768 line at all):

                      (II) VESA(0): Total Memory: 64 64KB banks (4096kB)
                      (II) VESA(0): Monitor[vesa]: Using hsync range of 31.00-48.00 kHz
                      (II) VESA(0): Monitor[vesa]: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-60.00 Hz
                      (II) VESA(0): Not using mode "default" (no mode of this name)
                      (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024)
                      (**) VESA(0): Built-in mode "1024x768"
                      (**) VESA(0): Built-in mode "800x600"
                      (**) VESA(0): Built-in mode "640x480"
                      (==) VESA(0): DPI set to (75, 75)
                      (**) VESA(0): Option "ModeSetClearScreen" "no"
                      (II) VESA(0): Attempting to use 60Hz refresh for mode "1024x768" (117)
                      (II) VESA(0): Attempting to use 60Hz refresh for mode "800x600" (114)
                      (II) VESA(0): Attempting to use 60Hz refresh for mode "640x480" (111)

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