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  • Need advice for an upgrade

    I currently have Sempron64 2800+(1.6G) that is overclocked to 2.4G on an Asus K8N motherboard.

    I'm looking to upgrade to dual core on a budget. I would like to stay with AGP if possible since I have a BFG 7600GS OC 512MB video card and it suits me fine.

    I'm not really doing any gaming these days so I don't have to stay with AGP but would like to if possible.

    I've been thinking about going Core 2 Duo - either E4300 or E6300 on an Asus P5PE-VM motherboard which uses DDR400 and AGP.
    Does anyone have any feedback for the P5PE-VM?

    I've been using mainly AMD to this point but have been seriously thinking of going Intel CPU on intel chipset since they seem to be becoming very Open Source friendly. That and the fact that the Core 2 Duo's are low power and fantastic speed like the AMD's are.

    I got rid of my P4 524 3.06G since it couldn't even come close to the Sempron in any benchmarks I ran on either Windows or Linux.

    Any other CPU/motherboard recommendations are welcome but I don't really want to spend more than $250CDN on a CPU or about $100CDN on a motherboard. I want to spend less than $500 for the entire system so If I need 1G of ddr2, that has to factor in there as well as a video card.
    Last edited by Fragadelic; 02-10-2007, 09:29 PM. Reason: Update title since I purchased the hardware

  • #2
    The Core 2 Duo's are beautiful. No experience with the P5PE-VM, but other similar ASUS motherboards have worked great.

    A Core 2 Duo with a budget motherboard should work well. If you can afford it, go for PCI Express.
    Michael Larabel
    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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    • #3
      Thanks for your reply.

      Any recommendations for a budget motherboard that works well with Linux?

      I think I might bite the bullet and upgrade everything, including ram and video card but it would be so nice to be able to make due with the video card and ram for at least another year or so.

      The P5PE-VM is 865 chipset so I could have used my DDR400 and my AGP video card.

      Have you tried that 775 board from Asrock, the DUAL VSTA or whatever it is called, with Ubuntu Edgy? I can get that one for the time being. I know you reported it didn't work well with FC but seems folks that are running Ubuntu Edgy have it running fine. I am somewhat limited in my choices as I don't want to buy online and have to either get my stuff from Tiger Direct or a place called Canada Computers, both of which are close to me.

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      • #4
        I think I had tried Eft with the Dual-VSTA but I don't recall how it worked off hand. Though you could use a Feisty Herd always.

        Abit and ASUS have some nice cheaper ones.

        Avoid PC Partner and Foxconn. ECS can be iffy.
        Michael Larabel
        http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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        • #5
          If I went PCIe and ddr2, I'd have to leave out the video card for now. Whats the best onboard video? The only game I really play is Enemy Territory. I won't be getting Quake Wars since it might be more expensive then the original game cost due to my wife divorcing me - lol.

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          • #6
            The Intel GMA950 / X3000 are good as well as the GeForce 6150 for Enemy Territory.
            Michael Larabel
            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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            • #7
              The Asus P5L-MX is 945G based with the GMA950 and its under $100CDN.

              The only bad thing I've been hearing about Asus lately are dead ethernet nics on the Intel Chipset.

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              • #8
                If the NIC is dead, couldn't you just RMA it? Or you could always just buy a PCI-based NIC very cheap (or at least here in the US).
                Michael Larabel
                http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                • #9
                  I have pci nics anyway but the biggest problem with these budget boards is the lacks of slots. I like my SBLive Value and I have a Hauppage PVR150 that I use to do analog to digital video transfers with.

                  The P5L-MX only has 2 PCI slots. RMA'ing is fine but then I have no PC until that gets resolved.

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                  • #10
                    The Asus nic woes seem to revolve around the gigabit capable nics.

                    Wish I had an unlimited budget - lol.

                    Having a dual core would allow me to use the pc while I encode video without affecting either.

                    The E4300 and E6300 are $218 and $230 CDN right now up here so thats the biggest chunk of money and 1 G of DDR2 is about $130. The Pentium D 925 is $158CDN. An X2 3800+ is $170CDN. I probably won't be overclocking since most of the budget boards are very limited in overclocking anyway so any overclocking benefits of the CPU are null and void for now.

                    Since I'm getting DDR2 anyway, AMD AM2 platform is back on the table as well but onboard video is a must for now.

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                    • #11
                      I am currently using an ASRock ConRoe865PE and it works very good on linux. It is based on the good old Intel 865 chip using DDR1 ram and works nicely with my old AGP graphics card. Everything I tested so far works nicely. The only thing I did not test is onboard audio. The bios is not usable if you want to overlock, but for everyday usage it is perfect. Here is a lonk to the Product itself:
                      http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=ConRoe865PE
                      The board works perfectly with the vanilla 2.6.18.6 Kernel I am using. All 2.6.18.* Kernel did work nicely, too.

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                      • #12
                        What cpu do you have in that system?

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                        • #13
                          I am using a Core2Due 6400 with my old 2x512MB DDR400 ram from MDT (a German company). I am also still using my ancient ATI Radeon 9800Pro with 128MB ram that is nicely supported by the opensource r300 drivers.

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                          • #14
                            Cool.

                            That motherboard and the Aus P5PE-VM I believe are indentical except for the video and the number of slots.

                            I'm kinda leaning towards either the E4300 or E6300 on the Asus P5PE-VM so I can reuse my memory and video card.

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                            • #15
                              Well....

                              I purchased a Core 2 Duo E4300 and an Asus P5PE-VM motherboard. The motherboard is based on the 865G chipset from Intel.

                              A quick kernel compile benchmark compared to my Sempron64 2.4G system:

                              Common Hardware
                              7600GS OC 512M AGP Video Card
                              2x512MB Kingmax Dual Channel DDR400 2.5-3-3-7
                              SB Live! Value
                              Hauppage WinTV PVR150 TV/capture card
                              TD-101 Slim Case
                              Enermax 420W PSU
                              Panasonic DVD-RW DVR-105
                              Seagate 250G PATA on the SATA controller using a PATA to SATA converter
                              Linux Mint 2.1(Ubuntu Edgy derivative)

                              Kernel 2.6.19 make -j 3 for E4300 and make -j 2 for Sempron64

                              E4300 - stock clocking 1.8G 200FSB
                              1074.093 seconds to do a complete compile

                              Sempron64 2800+ OC'd to 2.4G 300FSB 3xHT RAM 266=DDR400 with overclock
                              1971 or so seconds to do a complete compile

                              I have to say I'm very impressed with the results. That Sempron is an awesome CPU considering it is only single core and only has 256k of cache.

                              This is my first venture into dual core. I've been an AMD fan since the 386 days. I'm not planning on overclocking this system since it is fast enough as it is.

                              I'm very happy with my budget system so far.

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