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  • Preview: AMD's FX-9590 Eight-Core At Up To 5.0GHz On Linux

    Phoronix: Preview: AMD's FX-9590 Eight-Core At Up To 5.0GHz On Linux

    Since last year AMD's had the FX-9590 as the top-end Vishera CPU that can top out at 5.0GHz with its Turbo Frequency, but initially this processor was only available to OEM system builds. Over time the OEM version of the FX-9590 became available to consumers while earlier this summer AMD launched a retail version of the FX-9590 that included the eight-core CPU with a closed-loop water cooling solution. Today we're reviewing this highest-end Vishera CPU to see how it compares to other AMD and Intel processors on Ubuntu Linux.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=20833

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    This really underlines the sad state of affairs of AMD's high-end desktop offerings, not that we haven't known this for years. The chip runs at a mind-boggling 220W TDP, runs so hot that it requires liquid cooling, and still can't compete with 84W TDP i7s. Bulldozer really is just a complete and utter disaster of an architecture, at least as far as desktop is concerned, maybe even worse than the original Phenom. It sucks because we desperately need Team Green to get its **** together. We've seen how Intel's desktop offerings have stagnated, offering minimal IPC gains from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge to Haswell. Intel can afford to sit on their hands and concentrate fully on lowering power consumption as they desperately try to push into the ARM-dominated mobile space because they simply have no competition in mid to high end desktops. They are competing against themselves in that space.
    Last edited by sirdilznik; 09-01-2014, 11:57 AM.

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    • #3
      Well...

      Wanna hear the punchline?

      I'm still going to buy this monster.

      You made me do this Intel, after your fucked up Atoms (I bought C-350 instead) and after unveiling your evil "solder everything" policy I have no other choice...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
        You made me do this Intel, after your fucked up Atoms (I bought C-350 instead) and after unveiling your evil "solder everything" policy I have no other choice...
        To me, the difference between "socketed, but a new socket each year" and "everything soldered" is not that big ...

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        • #5
          220w?

          to much, 220w is to much and performance to low, amd pls give up from this architecture, in some tests is worst than pentium g

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          • #6
            Wow... That 9590 sucked... A10-7800K is good enough for me...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CrystalGamma View Post
              To me, the difference between "socketed, but a new socket each year" and "everything soldered" is not that big ...
              Sure thing but AMD is veeeery far away from "socketed, but a new socket each year" so kudos to them.

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              • #8
                Sad but true

                ATM AMD is not able make decent high-end hardware.
                Their niche now is low-end budget desktops.
                It's sad because Intel has no competition on the "serious" market.
                I always bought AMD cpus, my first cpu bought with my own money was an AMD K6-2@350MHz , but about a year ago I switched to Intel,
                got myself an i7-4770k and I'm very happy with it.
                I had an AMD A10-5800K before that and the difference is simply overwhelming.

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                • #9
                  I somehow tought some of those new FX are tested . Ah those will be announced tomorrow FX-8320E, FX-8370 and FX-8370E.

                  And Radeon 285 i think Tonga.

                  eidt: and Athlons X2 450, Athlon X4 840 and Athlon X4 860K Those are like Kaveri APU without Kaveri for the half price i think
                  Last edited by dungeon; 09-01-2014, 01:03 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
                    Sure thing but AMD is veeeery far away from "socketed, but a new socket each year" so kudos to them.
                    Yeah, keeping the same socket while upgrading the cpu is a very cool feature from AMD.

                    But considering the performance and power draw, it's hardly worth it. Honestly, (and VERY VERY unfortunately), AMD is only worth it on the very low end. If you can afford at least an i3 and the motherboard to host it, do it. You'll get better performance and better performance per watt.

                    Since my first computer I always went Intel (486) -> AMD (486DX4) -> Intel (Pentium 166) -> AMD (K6-2 350) -> Intel (P3 733) -> AMD (AthlonXP 2500+D) -> Intel (PentiumDC 2GHz) -> ... still going for 6 years now. C'mon AMD, still waiting for that comeback.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
                      Sure thing but AMD is veeeery far away from "socketed, but a new socket each year" so kudos to them.
                      I was just saying that this change in Intel policy is not THAT big IMO

                      Originally posted by [Knuckles] View Post
                      Since my first computer I always went Intel (486) -> AMD (486DX4) -> Intel (Pentium 166) -> AMD (K6-2 350) -> Intel (P3 733) -> AMD (AthlonXP 2500+D) -> Intel (PentiumDC 2GHz) -> ... still going for 6 years now. C'mon AMD, still waiting for that comeback.
                      Hopefully SkyBridge will make them more competitive again ... and even if their new x86 cores are not much better, thanks to pin-compatibility (or so it was said) you can try out the ARM versions as well
                      Last edited by CrystalGamma; 09-01-2014, 01:26 PM.

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                      • #12
                        well the problem with bulldozer architecture is that is not Intel's and low IPC, what i mean with this is:

                        1.) low IPC is obvious enough but is not that utterly slow all the time
                        2.) Developers follow intel's way, so many neat features in bulldozer that can in many scenarios improve a lot the performance are bypassed since intel processors aren't using them like FMA3, AVX, etc. and many commercial apps use ICC in their toolchain and wide that gap a lot more

                        in the same way Haswell suffers from this too since developers don't target AVX2.0, bmi, fma4, etc too often because the biggest CPU market share lowest denominator rely on SSE2 but if you target those new instruction and compares it to Ivy bridge the difference is huge.

                        So until developers start using those architectures improvements more often bulldozer and haswell+ won't see huge improvements in performance in the big picture.

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                        • #13
                          Wrong game for AMD

                          I can't believe they put thisthing out there. At 220W TDP , let's compare with the FX-9590 vs i7-4790K:
                          1. The AMD chip is only 13% cheaper ($340 vs 300 currently at newegg)
                          2. The Intel chip is betwen 30 and 50% faster, let's settle at 40%.
                          3. The AMD chip uses 2.5 times as much power! (220/88 TDP ratio)
                          4. The last two combined imply a performance per watt 3.5 times higher for the Intel chip.
                          5. Performance per dollar, _at face value, is 25% higher for Intel. Energy costs will make this ratio increase significantly if you really use the chip.

                          Complete, utter disaster. Who TF is making these decisions @ AMD?

                          AMD has great potential, on the GPU side. They should focus on APU's, get the software open, provide cheaper gaming and small form factor PC packages. Work with AMD on hybrid chips, etc. The future is low power and mobile, it's integrated electronics as in SoCs and APU. There is room there for AMD. Please go that way, we need you alive and kicking.

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                          • #14
                            Rumor going around that AMD has a NDA going on for some new products they're about to release. Nothing huge I hear but sub $200 stuff, so likely means more tweaked FX and APU CPU's? Maybe AMD will finally add that super cache for their graphics like Intel did with Iris Pro? I'd give it another month before the NDA gets lifted.

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                            • #15
                              There's going to be lots of Linux hardware benchmarks on Phoronix in September.
                              Michael Larabel
                              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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