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    Phoronix: NVIDIA Tegra K1 Compared To AMD AM1 APUs

    This weekend when publishing preview benchmarks of NVIDIA's Tegra K1 from the Jetson TK1 development board, there were numerous requests by Phoronix readers to see this high-end ARM SoC pitted against the new AMD AM1 APUs. In this article are some benchmarks of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on all of the AM1 Athlon and Sempron APUs compared to the Tegra K1 Cortex-A15 SoC.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=20354

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    No link to openbenchmarking.org?

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    • #3
      How about the O-DROID

      There are several arm based boards the Tegra K1 would "compete" with. I'm highly interested in how it performs vs both the ODROID-U3, ODROID-X2, and the ODROID-XU. These are significantly cheaper with some really good specs. It would be awesome to see some comparisons.

      http://www.hardkernel.com/main/produ...=G138733896281 $60
      http://www.hardkernel.com/main/produ...=G135235611947 $135
      http://www.hardkernel.com/main/produ...=G137510300620 $169

      The interesting thing about the $169 XU is that it has 8 cores in big.LITTLE configuration.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by riklaunim View Post
        No link to openbenchmarking.org?
        Every graph has a link to openbenchmarking, just press on the logo and the on "view all results".
        http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...KH-AMDAM126826

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        • #5
          A small note, for those who didn't look at first or didn't think to look... This is comparing closed-source Nvida vs open source Radeon-- not Catalyst. So performance on the AMD side isn't going to be 'full hardware potential.'

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ericg View Post
            A small note, for those who didn't look at first or didn't think to look... This is comparing closed-source Nvida vs open source Radeon-- not Catalyst. So performance on the AMD side isn't going to be 'full hardware potential.'
            There isn't even any graphics or OpenCL tests in this article...
            Michael Larabel
            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tebruno99 View Post
              There are several arm based boards the Tegra K1 would "compete" with. I'm highly interested in how it performs vs both the ODROID-U3, ODROID-X2, and the ODROID-XU. These are significantly cheaper with some really good specs. It would be awesome to see some comparisons.

              http://www.hardkernel.com/main/produ...=G138733896281 $60
              http://www.hardkernel.com/main/produ...=G135235611947 $135
              http://www.hardkernel.com/main/produ...=G137510300620 $169

              The interesting thing about the $169 XU is that it has 8 cores in big.LITTLE configuration.
              I don't have any ODROID boards.
              Michael Larabel
              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                A small note, for those who didn't look at first or didn't think to look... This is comparing closed-source Nvida vs open source Radeon-- not Catalyst. So performance on the AMD side isn't going to be 'full hardware potential.'
                mmm i actually can't find any games or gpu side applications tested on this article, in that sense which GPU driver you use doesnt matter at all because CPU/Mobo/Chipset drivers are open and inside the kernel tree (nvidia blob/gallium drivers/Catalyst only drive GPU's and nothing else)

                if i miss any games/3d app in the article please point it out

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post
                  mmm i actually can't find any games or gpu side applications tested on this article, in that sense which GPU driver you use doesnt matter at all because CPU/Mobo/Chipset drivers are open and inside the kernel tree (nvidia blob/gallium drivers/Catalyst only drive GPU's and nothing else)

                  if i miss any games/3d app in the article please point it out
                  There aren't any, as I mentioned a few times in that article text, that testing is still forthcoming.
                  Michael Larabel
                  http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tebruno99 View Post
                    There are several arm based boards the Tegra K1 would "compete" with. I'm highly interested in how it performs vs both the ODROID-U3, ODROID-X2, and the ODROID-XU. These are significantly cheaper with some really good specs. It would be awesome to see some comparisons.
                    I have X2. It works quite well as a desktop, but still it's still not a good x86 CPU with GPU that has drivers built for X.org and not Android (Mali). http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...FO-1305102FO57

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Michael View Post
                      There isn't even any graphics or OpenCL tests in this article...
                      Whoops, sorry about that Michael. I had 2 articles opened side by side and ended up looking at the one and commenting on the other. Apologies!

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                      • #12
                        So the performance was pretty close for a lot of a tests. I belive the K1 has a lower power requirement (11 watts I think) so that should put them pretty close if not making the K1 perform better on a per watt basis (to the 5350). I think it all comes down to what you want to do. If you want to make a NAS you'll want the AM1 because it has more SATA ports.

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                        • #13
                          My experience using this board

                          Originally posted by riklaunim View Post
                          I have X2. It works quite well as a desktop, but still it's still not a good x86 CPU with GPU that has drivers built for X.org and not Android (Mali). http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...FO-1305102FO57

                          So far, it looks like the Jetson TK1 smokes the X2, at least on spot checks. CRay of <120s vs 300 (2.2x faster), LAME encoding of 15.5s vs 79.11s (5x better), etc. Of course, there is a limited sample size due to trouble with porting the test suite. But so far, it looks pretty impressive. I've been using the Jetson TK1 as my primary desktop all weekend with lots of tinkering.

                          I removed Unity and replace with KDE, where I can turn off compositing.

                          Performance has been impressive, outperforming mid-range laptops from just a few years ago. I saw a GLMark2 score of 320 at @1920x1080. While this doesn't have the same controls as the Phoronix test suite, this number is 3.5x the Celeron J1900 performance @2.x GHz (and I believe has a higher power draw too). Nexuiz at 1920x1080 with default detail settings ("normal") runs at 60-120fps (with perhaps 80fps average) during single player games. On demo, it ran closer to 200fps.

                          So ... color me impressed. I am really most impressed by the quantity and quality of software that I can run on ARM! KDE? Yep, and it works quite well. Gimp? Who wudda thunk? Gvcuview? Yup! The only really annoying absences are Flash, Chrome (chromium works very well though), and the Google talk plugin. I haven't tried Skype yet, but I don't have high hopes... although I assume it is running on Surface, so maybe...

                          I do hope nVidia bump their driver from Beta to "production" level. It is prone to occasional random hiccups under heavy load that kicks me back to the DM or freezes the display and requires a reboot.

                          But all in all, a great start for a SOC which might just have a great future!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by deppman View Post
                            I haven't tried Skype yet, but I don't have high hopes... although I assume it is running on Surface, so maybe...
                            The source isn't available, and MS's Linux binaries are only for x86 (not even x86-64). Porting to WinRT is completely irrelevant.

                            In the same way, most FOSS stuff working on ARM is hardly surprising - gcc and most other popular compilers can compile for it, and since the source is available to everyone recompilation is fairly trivial. The only things not easily recompilable should be those using x86 assembler, SSE etc directly (or assuming bytes to be in the same order on all platforms!).

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                            • #15
                              Wow. Now it is all down to how much power they both use. If they use the same amount of power AMD only has x86 as the main differential. If Nvidia uses more power it fails.
                              I would like to see performance per watt and ipc for an A15 core and a Jaguar core.

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