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    Phoronix: AMD Shows Off Beema & Mullins But Its Linux Fate Is Unclear

    AMD has now revealed their newest APUs, codenamed "Beema" and "Mullins" while their Linux fate remains unclear...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY3NTU

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    I'd be really interested in the actual features of these little chips and what exactly all this PSP (the built in ARM "platform security processor") is about. Is it against the user? Is it for the user?

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    • #3
      It's for DRM, against users I would say.

      Why this depressive tone in article. "Linux support uncertain, in doubt", FUD for short. It is practically enhanced and tweaked Jaguar platform so I don't see the reason for this tone. Kabini and Temash work great under Linux and when they got released there were also this doom and gloom stuff for no reason.

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      • #4
        It's to put pressure on AMD of course. If they don't send hw to the only Linux site, Linux users won't know if it works or not.

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        • #5
          There is no beema/mullins pciids at least in opensource graphics stack , so i guess that does not work today .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by lima View Post
            Why this depressive tone in article. "Linux support uncertain, in doubt", FUD for short. It is practically enhanced and tweaked Jaguar platform so I don't see the reason for this tone. Kabini and Temash work great under Linux and when they got released there were also this doom and gloom stuff for no reason.
            I agree. It's not like it's a radically different architecture than existing things. It's either one of two things (or maybe both actually): Michael is just spreading AMD FUD as usual, or after years of writing about this kind of stuff he knows nothing.


            Originally posted by dungeon View Post
            There is no beema/mullins pciids at least in opensource graphics stack , so i guess that does not work today .
            Well they were just launched today, even when there's 0-day support for it on Windows they usually go through a couple driver releases before it's really supported well...

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            • #7
              Stupidest article ever.

              "Until then, we have no idea how these new AMD APUs will work for low-power environments outside of Android."
              .... here's a little bit of interesting information.... ANDROID ***IS*** LINUX.

              Unless you're referring to wondoze or bsd, then ANDROID performance is directly indicative of pretty much everything.

              Also, who the hell cares? It really is about time that AMD started supporting Android. I want more power, but not at the cost of being stuck with intel/powervr bullshit.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                Stupidest article ever.

                "Until then, we have no idea how these new AMD APUs will work for low-power environments outside of Android."
                .... here's a little bit of interesting information.... ANDROID ***IS*** LINUX.

                Unless you're referring to wondoze or bsd, then ANDROID performance is directly indicative of pretty much everything.

                Also, who the hell cares? It really is about time that AMD started supporting Android. I want more power, but not at the cost of being stuck with intel/powervr bullshit.
                Good catch, can't believe I missed that. Or maybe I just stopped reading after I couldn't take any more FUD, not sure.

                Yeah, I'm not particularly thrilled with the current crap Android has to deal with, plus it's pretty much all proprietary too (Nvidia, PowerVR (mostly), Mali, Adreno, etc.), hopefully AMD can spearhead some good open-source support.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Adarion View Post
                  I'd be really interested in the actual features of these little chips and what exactly all this PSP (the built in ARM "platform security processor") is about. Is it against the user? Is it for the user?
                  http://genode.org/documentation/articles/trustzone via osnews.com

                  In short, it can be used for good...or EVEEEEL.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by liam View Post
                    http://genode.org/documentation/articles/trustzone via osnews.com

                    In short, it can be used for good...or EVEEEEL.
                    Oh, thanks for this interesting link.

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                    • #11
                      You are a tad misguided here...

                      While it is true that Android uses a 'forked' version of the Linux kernel, it is very different from any Linux Distro in that it's main OS is very much Java (well, a slimmed version of Java). Android also has various different APIs and frameworks that aren't used in the standard Linux kernel, uses things like Bionic, etc. Though it was speculated that Linux and Android kernels would one day merge, the fact is that they may never do so. Android is very much it's own OS that can't be bundled together as being "Linux" just yet.

                      Android utilized many different performance techniques and there are lots of differences that can greatly affect performance vs Linux

                      So stating that Android performance = Linux performance is very, VERY far from the truth, not to mention speculative.

                      Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                      Stupidest article ever.

                      "Until then, we have no idea how these new AMD APUs will work for low-power environments outside of Android."
                      .... here's a little bit of interesting information.... ANDROID ***IS*** LINUX.

                      Unless you're referring to wondoze or bsd, then ANDROID performance is directly indicative of pretty much everything.

                      Also, who the hell cares? It really is about time that AMD started supporting Android. I want more power, but not at the cost of being stuck with intel/powervr bullshit.

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