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  • #76
    Small amounts of RAM more common than you think

    Originally posted by cbxbiker61 View Post
    Yes,

    I can't blame anyone for "wrong" results. All I can say is that my results with the cheapo MSI motherboard and 8G of good ram paint an entirely different picture. From these results you are pretty much seeing a doubling of performance over E-350, and I might add that the system (only the motherboard and cpu are different from my previous e-350) idles at 3 Watts lower, and peeks pretty much the same 30 Watts.

    No one in their right mind would run only 4G of ram on a multi-purpose machine. If it was a dedicated single-app server sure, but not a desktop.

    http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...KH-1404098KH91

    the AMD Kabini 5350 is a very good low power cpu!
    There is one obvious reason someone would build a desktop with 4G of RAM: if they are building or rebuilding from existing parts and that's what they've got. I built two machines from older Phenom II x4 setups, had 8G of ram on hand. The one that got the most video editing work got 6G and the other got only two and works fine, though Kdenlive must be run by itself on the latter and projects periodically closed and reopened. In all other work it's ever done you would not notive. Both run copies of my main 64bit OS, if the smaller one got much hard use I would redistribute the RAM back to how it was in 2011 when each board had 4G and both worked fine for everything they were used for.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Luke View Post
      There is one obvious reason someone would build a desktop with 4G of RAM: if they are building or rebuilding from existing parts and that's what they've got. I built two machines from older Phenom II x4 setups, had 8G of ram on hand. The one that got the most video editing work got 6G and the other got only two and works fine, though Kdenlive must be run by itself on the latter and projects periodically closed and reopened. In all other work it's ever done you would not notive. Both run copies of my main 64bit OS, if the smaller one got much hard use I would redistribute the RAM back to how it was in 2011 when each board had 4G and both worked fine for everything they were used for.
      Yes, if you're throwing something together for cheap, by all means reuse parts if you can get away with it.

      But really the main point is if you've got $300-$600 invested in a machine, $30-$40 for 4G only make sense. The old adage "penny wise and pound foolish" applies here.

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      • #78
        @cbxbiker61

        Maybe you don't being aware of, but there are few tweaks to raise graphic performance in games of course . Keep in mind that kernel 3.16 is generaly faster for SI hardware due to VM implemented/enabled.

        So as i see you have 56 fps in Xonotic low for example, i am seeing 70 fps with kernel 3.16.

        Additionaly with hyperz enabled i have 80 fps there.

        With governor set as 'performance' 84 fps.

        New parameters to play with in kernel 3.16 are vm_size and vm_block_size can also raise perf by few fps - so currently with the current stack what i can get is 86 fps .

        All in all that is 30 fps difference or +35% in graphic performance in Xonotic 1080p low case, raised with the few tweaks .
        Last edited by dungeon; 07-29-2014, 07:26 PM.

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        • #79
          Of course maybe someone on Gentoo can get even 90 fps, but that is it currently .

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          • #80
            Originally posted by cbxbiker61 View Post
            Yes,

            I can't blame anyone for "wrong" results. All I can say is that my results with the cheapo MSI motherboard and 8G of good ram paint an entirely different picture. From these results you are pretty much seeing a doubling of performance over E-350, and I might add that the system (only the motherboard and cpu are different from my previous e-350) idles at 3 Watts lower, and peeks pretty much the same 30 Watts.

            No one in their right mind would run only 4G of ram on a multi-purpose machine. If it was a dedicated single-app server sure, but not a desktop.

            http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...KH-1404098KH91

            the AMD Kabini 5350 is a very good low power cpu!
            I don't know of many cases, multipurpose or otherwise, where you would need more than 4GB RAM. I'd like to know what kind of software you are using to consume so much RAM.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by mmstick View Post
              I don't know of many cases, multipurpose or otherwise, where you would need more than 4GB RAM. I'd like to know what kind of software you are using to consume so much RAM.
              kind of stupid question, what is the only software a normal user needs much ram, the browser.

              u could shurly shut down 200 power plants worldwide if this garbage software would be replaced by pure data communication protocols.

              This inconsistent, most of the time bad scaling, extreme resource-eating, with horrible interfaces controlled, "pure utter shit" browsers html interfaces that only reason of existence is for companies to play their ads, and lets look each site different "branding", and enforcing to everybody their bad designs, and everybody have to mess around how his site looks instead the user defines once a theme and have a consistent experience.

              Sorry that had to be relesead. Sadly u cant even write on such a standard forum without a browser.

              except maybe tapatalk, but sadly no free software is able to do that.
              Last edited by blackiwid; 07-30-2014, 07:46 AM.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                I don't know of many cases, multipurpose or otherwise, where you would need more than 4GB RAM. I'd like to know what kind of software you are using to consume so much RAM.
                It isn't that any one "average" program consumes the ram directly. It's really a matter of what Linux can do with ram that is freely available to improve the overall experience. It is also known that quite a few motherboards determine the ram allocated to the "shared" video memory based on overall system ram.

                In this case 6.5G is "cached", which would be programs that have been previously loaded are primed and ready to go when you need them next.

                Tasks: 178 total, 1 running, 177 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
                %Cpu(s): 0.7 us, 0.2 sy, 0.0 ni, 99.0 id, 0.0 wa, 0.1 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st
                KiB Mem: 7527184 total, 7390840 used, 136344 free, 480 buffers
                KiB Swap: 1613248 total, 0 used, 1613248 free. 6538596 cached Mem

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