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    Phoronix: VIA Launches Its Own ARM Development Board

    The latest company now offering low-cost ARM development boards for pushing their platform to ARM Linux and Android developers is VIA Technologies. VIA claims their new Springboard platform is "the fast path from prototype to production" and only costs $100 USD, but the specifications aren't all that impressive...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUwMDE

  • #2
    VIA is one of handful of companies with x86 license
    having both architectures in the same package will help them differentiate and sell

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    • #3
      For people who care about the overall price, the MK802II or MK808 are much better than the raspberry pi.

      VIA seems pretty doomed to me. They had a chance to really get somewhere 10 years ago but now I think it's too late. The really scary thing is, to me, VIA is to AMD as AMD is to Intel. I'd like VIA to get more success, but their price vs performance ratio is terrible. The only thing I found particularly appealing about their ARM boards is their abundance of host USB ports, good DDR3 memory, and sometimes PCI-e slots. Those are pretty nice features for ARM.

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      • #4
        that crap

        a lot better for same price :
        http://store.r0ck.me/products/cubiet...h-with-wifi-bt

        Dual core A7, sata, Gigabit Ethernet, 2go Ram, 89$ etc...

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        • #5
          isn't it strange that the raspberry pi is still the fastest board for the buck you can buy? why can't we see a nice dual core board cortex a9 under the 100$ range? we have cortex a15, it should be a fairly old tech by now...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sireangelus View Post
            isn't it strange that the raspberry pi is still the fastest board for the buck you can buy? why can't we see a nice dual core board cortex a9 under the 100$ range? we have cortex a15, it should be a fairly old tech by now...
            No, it isn't. There are PLENTY of dual core cortex A9 boards under $100, including several of the ones mentioned in this topic. RPi is actually one of the WORST values in terms of price vs performance. The fact that it has a linux-functioning GPU is what gives it a slight edge over many of the Mali based systems.

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            • #7
              The manual says it uses an WM8950 Cortex-A9 processor, so it might have an mali-400 GPU.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nille_kungen View Post
                The manual says it uses an WM8950 Cortex-A9 processor, so it might have an mali-400 GPU.
                hmm, it is Mali. Unless VIA helps with the lima drivers or expects this device to only run android, they're probably not going to get far. I personally have had terrible luck with Mali chips, on 2 unrelated platforms.

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                • #9
                  Gigabit Ethernet would have been a nice touch

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                  • #10
                    cubieboard2 and the cubietruck look nice.
                    They have a sata port
                    Too bad you gotta order from china to get them, or atleast any US place is out of stock.

                    I get the feeling that next year we're gonna see some really exciting arm products.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Soul_keeper View Post
                      I get the feeling that next year we're gonna see some really exciting arm products.
                      I hope so. I've been keeping an eye out for a board with a quad Cortex A15, that also has a usable GPU in X.Org or Wayland. I think that would be able to replace my laptop for all uses except gaming. Plus my Globalscale Dreamplug (ARMv5te) server needs an upgrade as it's too slow to handle mediagoblin and other python based apps.

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                      • #12
                        So from the specs it "supports up to 3 USB 2.0 ports"...in real life, there's 1 onboard, plus 2 on an I/O extender board that has "one USB board-to-board connector": looks like this is off on the one onboard, and they're counting the mini USB ports.
                        Audio and power button are on the extender board.
                        Oh, it has 2 COM ports ("one for RX/TX only").

                        So let's see:
                        2x full USB 2.0 ports
                        2x Mini USB ports
                        1x COM port
                        1x COM port, RX/TX only
                        Audio in
                        Audio out
                        Mini HDMI
                        Touch screen
                        10/100 ethernet
                        I2C & GPIO pin header.
                        1 LED

                        No SD card/SATA port, AFAICT.

                        The wireless module is an Atheros 9271 b/g/n USB module.
                        "Supported" OSs are Android and Debian.

                        I'm getting the impression that a beaglebone black is the thing to compare it to.
                        And that has half the eMMC, half the ram, half the USB ports, one serial header, optional JTAG; one HDMI port, no dedicated audio; 6 LEDs; a microSD slot; a 1 GHz A8; and costs less than half the price ($45).
                        Looks like the Pi and the Beaglebone Black have lots more pins available.

                        Really, it seems they're aiming at people who need RAM, USB, serial, and audio jacks...but not removable or expandable storage.
                        And that is the big deal breaker, in my book.
                        It also seems to be underpowered and overpriced.

                        I suspect that lacking an SD/microSD slot will damage its viability as a prototyping platform, since it eliminates any products where those are desired.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                          No, it isn't. There are PLENTY of dual core cortex A9 boards under $100, including several of the ones mentioned in this topic. RPi is actually one of the WORST values in terms of price vs performance. The fact that it has a linux-functioning GPU is what gives it a slight edge over many of the Mali based systems.
                          I own a few Pis, and know a few other people with them. For us "performance" is a low contributor to "value". Things like a well maintained Linux Distro, low cost and cheap GPIO gizmos have a much higher weighting. The plain fact is that the Pi is fast enough for everything I want to do on it. Yes it is extremely slow in terms of CPU ops, but I am very rarely waiting on CPU.

                          Look at the hugely vibrant arduino community - cheap ubiquitous hardware with decent IO can easily out weight a slow (even glacial) CPU for many users.

                          Very few Pis are seeing use as "desktop" computers. None of the approx 10 I know of are even connected to a monitor. Plenty of them are acting as a full linux OS in front of a hobby project, the CPU could be anything really. Most of mine normally have loadavgs of under 0.1.

                          If I had to "fix" things about the Pi it'd be dropping the SD Card for another USB (which you could boot off), more RAM, and giving it a power switch jumper. CPU is waaaay down the list and not something I'd ever consider paying 4x the price for.

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                          • #14
                            The CIR module is also interesting. But I'll echo the overpriced for the specs comment.

                            One thing only Via seems to get so far is to make boards *TX compatible. You can't mount a Pi or Beagle in a normal case.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by samworm View Post
                              I own a few Pis, and know a few other people with them. For us "performance" is a low contributor to "value". Things like a well maintained Linux Distro, low cost and cheap GPIO gizmos have a much higher weighting. The plain fact is that the Pi is fast enough for everything I want to do on it. Yes it is extremely slow in terms of CPU ops, but I am very rarely waiting on CPU.

                              Look at the hugely vibrant arduino community - cheap ubiquitous hardware with decent IO can easily out weight a slow (even glacial) CPU for many users.

                              Very few Pis are seeing use as "desktop" computers. None of the approx 10 I know of are even connected to a monitor. Plenty of them are acting as a full linux OS in front of a hobby project, the CPU could be anything really. Most of mine normally have loadavgs of under 0.1.

                              If I had to "fix" things about the Pi it'd be dropping the SD Card for another USB (which you could boot off), more RAM, and giving it a power switch jumper. CPU is waaaay down the list and not something I'd ever consider paying 4x the price for.
                              That is absolutely true, and I sincerely commend you for using the Pi for it's intended purposes. There's a little part of me that dies every time when I hear someone buys a Pi and complains about it's performance or uses it strictly for XBMC. I think the Pi is fantastic for non-desktop OS purposes and is the best value in the sense. But if you want a mini ARM PC, it's probably of the worst values. The problem is it seems the majority of people who buy it use it as a PC, or bought it just simply because its cheap but otherwise have no use for it.

                              You're also completely right about a maintained OS. I own a Beagleboard-xM and I am very disappointed about how poorly the distros are maintained. You can get pretty new kernels but it's such a hassle to use the xM's features that I shouldn't have had to bother with in the first place.
                              Last edited by schmidtbag; 11-01-2013, 10:51 AM.

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