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  • #11
    This isn't really that bad.

    Some of the initial performance reports where very negative but this looks very good to me for a generation one processor. There is good reason now to save a few bucks going AMD as the performance penalty isn't overwhelming

    It will be especially interesting to see more testing with different configurations of the processors. We simply don't have the experience to imply anything about cache trade offs as the architecture is so new.

    The other thing to realize is that there has likely been little in the way of Bulldozer specific optimizations in these tests. That would be switches for the compilers. Even though some OS optimization has been done that doesnt preclude any other improvements specific to Bulldozer. In the end AMD could be sitting pretty with a hardware revision and some optimized compiler technologies.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by rohcQaH View Post
      In any case, a direct comparison of "4 threads across 4 modules" against "4 threads crammed into 2 modules" might be interesting to see how much Bulldozer's modules actually lose over discrete cores by sharing certain parts of the CPU pipeline.
      Yes, that's all i was getting at. Maybe scaling would be worse, or maybe better, but it would have been an interesting test to see exactly what does happen. It might even tell us something about the BD architecture.

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      • #13
        I see my div suggestion was applied. Nice to have a scrollable specs table.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by nepwk View Post
          Good article. You did a great job of showing the difference between 8 semi-real cores vs. hyperthreading.
          Agreed. Thank you Michael, this was a very informative article!

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          • #15
            people wondering about the bad scaling on 8 threats...

            but remember the bulldozer is a 4 core cpu not a 8core...

            the speed in comparison on an 4 core with 4 threats is really high.

            and no 4core+ CMP isn't a 8core cpu.

            its a 4 core with CMP (like 4core+Hyperthreating on intel side.)

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
              people wondering about the bad scaling on 8 threats...

              but remember the bulldozer is a 4 core cpu not a 8core...

              the speed in comparison on an 4 core with 4 threats is really high.

              and no 4core+ CMP isn't a 8core cpu.

              its a 4 core with CMP (like 4core+Hyperthreating on intel side.)
              Oh f*ck me... Not again!?!?

              In any case... Nice article, though the CLOMP results for BD keep bugging me. Can anyone try and explain what's going on and what are the implications?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by PsynoKhi0 View Post
                Oh f*ck me... Not again!?!?
                CMP is the stupid idea AMD ever bring to life but only because the humanity isn't ready yet.
                they should better build native 8core cpus like the AMD Opteron 6128, 8x 2.00GHz for the am3 socket.
                the Humans are not ready yet for the Truth about SMP vs CMP vs HT
                in my point of view the humans are not ready for out of order cpus.
                we need a LAW to Force "in order" cpu architecture to Stop the stupidness of the humans.

                very sad.

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                • #18
                  Scaling with more threads than actual cores

                  Sometimes one can squeeze more performance when running the test with more threads than the actual core of the processor.

                  Here is an example:
                  http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...IV-1090TX26430

                  X264 performance peaked at 18 threads for my 1090T.

                  I think thread count should be a value that can be determined by the actual tests (some other tests have no justification for such manipulation) AND the processor since some processor improve their results when loading more threads and some others don't

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by EyalBD View Post
                    Sometimes one can squeeze more performance when running the test with more threads than the actual core of the processor.

                    Here is an example:
                    http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...IV-1090TX26430

                    X264 performance peaked at 18 threads for my 1090T.

                    I think thread count should be a value that can be determined by the actual tests (some other tests have no justification for such manipulation) AND the processor since some processor improve their results when loading more threads and some others don't
                    Whenever you see results like that it means there is a problem with the benchmark. Either the code is written poorly, or the threads are blocked by I/O. In the latter case, obviously changing the disk subsystem will change the result, and then you no longer have a meaningful benchmark of CPU performance. In the former case, you have some other block on a shared resource. It might be valid still as a benchmark, if the contended resource is the same on all test platforms.

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                    • #20
                      There is an error in the article

                      Last sentence on page 3 says:
                      "With eight threads (fully utilizing the FX-8150), the improvement was 6.05x over the single-core result while the Opteron 2394 was at 8.02x and the Core i7 990X at 6.11x."

                      However, 6.05x is the improvement for 6 threads, the one for all 8 threads was 7.44x

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