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    hi i try to buy a AMD Opteron 6128+board

    i find the cpu@ geizhals http://geizhals.at/eu/a508671.html but i can't find any board...

    i'm interested in a supermicro MBD-H8SGL or an dualsocket g34 tyan.

    i can't find any socked g34 board@ geizhals or google..

    HELP!!!!

  • #2
    I'm in the same boat. I work for a company that does CAE software development, and we're looking to build a new custom box. Newegg.com has the Tyan S8230 board listed, but not available.

    If anyone has information on where to purchase a dual G34 board that's in stock, please let us know!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jjmcwill2003 View Post
      I'm in the same boat. I work for a company that does CAE software development, and we're looking to build a new custom box. Newegg.com has the Tyan S8230 board listed, but not available.

      If anyone has information on where to purchase a dual G34 board that's in stock, please let us know!
      i think the problem is that the first mainboards directly goes into complete servers..

      if this servers are all up the second step is to sale the main boards without a complete system ...

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      • #4
        I do not get what you want as normal user with an opteron. The default frequency for the cheaper opterons is way too slow, you get only speed when you run apps which use threads efficiantly like compiling. The new X6 would be much more interesting when it would be true that it can run up to 500 mhz faster in turbo mode when other cores are idle. That has to be done in hardware of course and should not require win software to oc. Thats why i would like to test X6 - if somebody wants to send it to me for free, i certainly will NOT buy it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kano View Post
          I do not get what you want as normal user with an opteron. The default frequency for the cheaper opterons is way too slow, you get only speed when you run apps which use threads efficiantly like compiling. The new X6 would be much more interesting when it would be true that it can run up to 500 mhz faster in turbo mode when other cores are idle. That has to be done in hardware of course and should not require win software to oc. Thats why i would like to test X6 - if somebody wants to send it to me for free, i certainly will NOT buy it.
          hey a opteron 6000 is much faster than a phenomII X6!

          thats because O6000 do have the double cache size and double ramspeed and the half latency!

          be sure the 2ghz Opteron6000 8core beat the X6!

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          • #6
            As it told you: it will only "beat" that cpu for apps which work best multithreaded, but not for you little gamer boy, games will run SLOWER.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kano View Post
              As it told you: it will only "beat" that cpu for apps which work best multithreaded, but not for you little gamer boy, games will run SLOWER.
              i do not play normal games! i play cache and ramspeed needet games...

              my games runs better on opteron 6000!

              thats because a single opteron 6000 do have the 'double' of cache! and double ramspeed!

              an dualsocket opteron6000 do have 4times more cache on an singletheatet app!

              thats because its numa 1 core can use the L3 cache of ALL the other cores around the system!

              ARMA2 for exampel its streaming system realy need the fastet ramspeed and up to 12 'cores' and really need much more cache and more ramspeed you ever can deliver!

              be sure ARMA2 runs much faster on an Opteron6000 than on an PhenomII X6!

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              • #8
                That would be the first game that can handle more than 3-4 cores. Also when your gfx card is too slow thats a much bigger bottle neck. Your cache calculation is just wrong, you need of course more cache for more cores than for fewer cores, that does not speed up the things. The more cores you have got the more problematic is the synchronization of the caches. That's why the X6 is not even faster than a i7-965 (not even a i7-980X needed) in first benchmarks. You really need to run highly independend workload on each core or your single app will definitely NOT run faster.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kano View Post
                  That would be the first game that can handle more than 3-4 cores. Also when your gfx card is too slow thats a much bigger bottle neck. Your cache calculation is just wrong, you need of course more cache for more cores than for fewer cores, that does not speed up the things. The more cores you have got the more problematic is the synchronization of the caches. That's why the X6 is not even faster than a i7-965 (not even a i7-980X needed) in first benchmarks. You really need to run highly independend workload on each core or your single app will definitely NOT run faster.
                  "That would be the first game that can handle more than 3-4 cores."

                  Surprime Commander can handle 12 cores to if you patch the exe with an official multicore patch!

                  ArmA2+Surpime Commander do not use the cores for graphic stuff they use it for artificial intelligence AI for the enemy trupps and your own ..

                  S-C can handle 128kX128km maps and 50 000 trupps
                  Arma2 can handle 128 multiplayer players and 225kmē and 1536 trupps every of this 1536 do have a AI a alone AI for every single trupp!

                  be sure on a CTI map a special automatik world war realtime stradegie map in ARMA2 use the 1536 trupps! on an 225kmē map! every trupp can handle tanks and air stuff and hundres differend weapons!

                  be sure on an arma2-cti map a opteron 6000 Outperforma your PhenomII completely!

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                  • #10
                    My fastest cpu is a Xeon X3380 (4 cores 3166 Mhz), i am sure it would be enough, but i don't play those games Therefore it is not "my" Phenom II, but Opteron was never made for games - raw speed is needed there - a cpu below 3 ghz is just not usefull for general purpose nowaways, those a special purpuse server cpus.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kano View Post
                      My fastest cpu is a Xeon X3380 (4 cores 3166 Mhz), i am sure it would be enough, but i don't play those games Therefore it is not "my" Phenom II, but Opteron was never made for games - raw speed is needed there - a cpu below 3 ghz is just not usefull for general purpose nowaways, those a special purpuse server cpus.
                      " i am sure it would be enough,"

                      you are just wrong!

                      http://www.arma2.com/versorgungslage...s.html?lang=de

                      i do not talk abaut loser PC mini map games in arma2

                      i talk abaut the King the Overloard!

                      i talk abaut CTI! CTI Conquer the Island

                      http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=5862

                      your system " cpu is a Xeon X3380 (4 cores 3166 Mhz)"

                      can't handel this!@ 128 human players and 1500 AI's!

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                      • #12
                        If you know a benchmark for that game that does not requrie buying it i could test it for you.

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                        • #13
                          Also when you look there:

                          http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,68...mulation/Test/

                          AMD performs really bad, my gfx card is slower than the used ATI 4890, but the cpu is faster than the Q9650 (3 ghz), in theory Intel could have named the X3380 also Q9750. Don't you think that AMD CPUs are bad choice for this special game

                          When you look at your claims that the engine would be so heavyly multithreaded then the diff between a X3 and X4 must have been clearly visable, but it is not. Most likely the gfx card was too slow for that test too.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kano View Post
                            If you know a benchmark for that game that does not requrie buying it i could test it for you.
                            you don't get the point.. the benchmarks in the demo for exampel only test the normal game mode!

                            ok your pc is for normal 'mode'

                            but if you start a CTI (alpfa and omega mega giga ultra Realbattle Simulation)

                            your cpu will go down!

                            normal mode my be 100 enemys... CTI= 1500!

                            and there is much more in ArmA2 there are low skilled cpu save AI's and Highend High-skilled cpu killer AI's called Commando troops!

                            in a normal game mode map the 100 enemys are low or normmal AIs

                            in CTI its diverend! if you spend more money on AI you geht a better troop!

                            exampel a standart ak47 low skilled KI cost 300 credit

                            a specialist for driving a tank cost 1000
                            a well skilled ak47 one cost 1500
                            a Commander AI cost 4000 and more!

                            2 armys can buy 1500 Commander AI's!

                            no normal map will ever have only high skilled AI's but @ CTI ALL try to get more Commander skilled AI's!

                            means 1 AI kills 1 core! (just an exampel)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kano View Post
                              Also when you look there:

                              http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,68...mulation/Test/

                              AMD performs really bad, my gfx card is slower than the used ATI 4890, but the cpu is faster than the Q9650 (3 ghz), in theory Intel could have named the X3380 also Q9750. Don't you think that AMD CPUs are bad choice for this special game

                              When you look at your claims that the engine would be so heavyly multithreaded then the diff between a X3 and X4 must have been clearly visable, but it is not. Most likely the gfx card was too slow for that test too.
                              you just don't get the point PCGH test the normal loser PC mode!

                              Fact: ArmA2 can handle up to 12 real cores! and ArmA2 use it! but not in an graphic benchmark!

                              PCGH use settings of arma2 and normal loser PC maps means its a graphic benchmark!

                              no high-skilled Commmander AI everywere! no CTI everywere!

                              no brain everywere,.. get the point!

                              arma2 normal is a 'shooter' yes a tactical shooter

                              checkt this.. what is wrong?

                              CTI isn't a shooter at all... CTI is a Real-time-Strategic game no tactical shooter!

                              if you think i talk about a tactical shooter named arma2 you are wrong!

                              i talk abaut CTI! its a special game mode in arma2 its a Strategic game!

                              in CTI you 'earn money' and you need 'Research' to improve your weapons and get newer one!

                              on CTI the game does not run only 1-2 hours a CTI can run weeks and monds!

                              the CTI runs automatic if you go to sleep your 'commander' earn money do research buy weapons send troops buy tanks buy helicopters buy bombers buy special troops do a global war!

                              and you... do not need to anything you can only watch a global war!

                              you also can buy troops and weaopons and mybe a ship then you can join in a big fat war!

                              with tausends of tanks and bombers and ships and paara trops landing everywere and..

                              hey there also resistance!

                              and civilians!... the resistance fight against to to!

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