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  • #16
    *yawn*
    00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RX780/RX790 Chipset Host Bridge
    00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (external gfx0 port A)
    00:09.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port E)
    00:0a.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port F)
    00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
    00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller
    00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller
    00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller
    00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller
    00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller
    00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller
    00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a)
    00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 IDE Controller
    00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller
    00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
    00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI2 Controller
    00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
    00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
    00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
    00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
    01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
    02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3870
    02:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3870 Audio device
    05:05.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2944UW / AIC-7884U (rev 01)
    05:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt848 Video Capture (rev 12)
    05:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value

    (lspci lies, its an 770 chipset)

    dmesg:

    [ 0.284013] ahci 0000:00:11.0: flags: 64bit ncq sntf ilck pm led clo pmp pio slum part
    [ 0.930542] ata1.00: ATA-7: SAMSUNG HD502IJ, 1AA01109, max UDMA7
    [ 0.930595] ata1.00: 976773168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
    [ 1.597196] ata2.00: ATA-7: SAMSUNG HD502IJ, 1AA01110, max UDMA7
    [ 1.597249] ata2.00: 976773168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)

    that techreport 'test' is bogus anyway. They are testing with the SB600 southbridge - while the 'native' southbridge is the SB700/750. And even worse - they blame the southbridge problems on the northbridge.

    >The 790FX's aging SB600 south bridge has long-standing USB performance issues that comparison with 780a makes all too clear.

    but have they made sure, that NCQ even works? For linux a patch was needed - or bios update. Maybe windows shows working ncq - but it doesn't work?
    I can't be assed to read the rest of it after that - but did they test power consumption too?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by energyman View Post

      that techreport 'test' is bogus anyway. They are testing with the SB600 southbridge - while the 'native' southbridge is the SB700/750. And even worse - they blame the southbridge problems on the northbridge.
      http://techreport.com/articles.x/15256/8
      http://techreport.com/articles.x/15256/9

      Those tests are done with the 790GX/SB750 chipset. Read . NCQ works fine with other non AMD chipsets.

      BTW, you dmesg's mean nothing. Even the SB600 shows the same messages.

      0000:00:12.0: flags: ncq sntf ilck pm led clo pio slum part
      ata4.00: ATA-7: ST3250824AS, 3.AAH, max UDMA/133
      ata4.00: 488397168 sectors, multi 1: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
      Last edited by deanjo; 12-07-2008, 12:29 PM.

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      • #18
        *shrug* when I went from nf520 to a770/sb700 hd performance did not change noticable. So... what do I care about some tests done in windows?

        also:
        >Given AMD's unresolved AHCI issues, we've tested the 790GX with the south bridge's Serial ATA controller running in IDE mode. The nForce 750a has no problems running in AHCI mode, which is how we tested it.

        so they don't tell you what that ahci problems are, they just turn it off and then pull something out of their ass because ide mode is slower. I am less and less impressed.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Nighthog View Post
          You returned your GA-MA78GM-S2H in vain, the 84C chipset temp is wrong/fake, it's no where close to that temperature in reality. Hell it's impossible to my knowledge to get it below 84C in the reading, I never managed and it reached whopping 127C maxxed out in my computer under 100% load whit no problem.
          There are a lot of reports of the so called overheating of he North Bridge of GigaByte 780G boards. I have the GA-MA78G-DS3H and according to lm-sensors it's running 89C idle and 92C when playing a game like Half Life 2. But the heat sink is just warm not hot, I can leave my fingers on it without them getting uncomfortably warm. So yes I think the chipset temp is bogus.


          I tried getting the GPU temperature with aticonfig but it tells me:

          ERROR - ATI Overdrive(TM) is not supported on the Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics


          Probably not implemented by the driver yet...

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          • #20
            You returned your GA-MA78GM-S2H in vain
            Not so. Even though it was a fine board I decided against it, as I mentioned earlier, because it "required too much active cooling for a quiet system." I wanted a cool running aNd quiet system, and that's what I have with the Foxconn.

            So yes I think the chipset temp is bogus.
            The Gigabyte tech support guy I asked about it stated my 85c temp reading was normal for that board's NB. Those 'bogus' reports might be why they replaced one of their best selling boards with a new number and a better NB heatsink.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by xenios View Post
              The Gigabyte tech support guy I asked about it stated my 85c temp reading was normal for that board's NB. Those 'bogus' reports might be why they replaced one of their best selling boards with a new number and a better NB heatsink.
              I just ran the GPU overclocked to 800 Mhz for a couple of hours, it runs stable but now the heatsink is getting a little hot. However lm-sensors still reports 89C when idle an 92C during gaming...

              I just wish ATI/AMD would update their driver and aticonfig utility so we can use ATI Overdrive with this IGP.

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              • #22
                However lm-sensors still reports 89C when idle an 92C during gaming...
                Doubt I'll OC as the default settings suit my needs. If you haven't tried it, lap/reseat the heatsink with good paste and replace the spring-loaded clamps with bolts/nuts for better heat transfer... might shave a few degrees off those temps.

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                • #23
                  As I mentioned in my first post my GA-MA78GPM-DS2H has a working sensor and it damn has the same NB heatsink as the GA-MA78GM-S2H rev1.1 I had! the difference lies on the reported temperatures these motherboards supply to your monitoring programs.

                  My current GA-MA78GPM-DS2H reports 45C right now whit firefox and music going, so it counts as idle I would say. Goes to 70-75C in 100% load on all 4 cores. The GA-MA78Gm-S2H rev1.1 whit same heatsink reported damn high 89C idle and 127C max in full load... >_>; (how is that right in any way but to say it gives you the wrong numbers?! it's the same chipset and heatsink dammit!)
                  I can see whit the Gigabyte technical support saying the 85C is about normal temp for the northbridge on these motherboards. But you gotta take that as the FULL LOAD temperatures and not idle temperature >_>;
                  I can in no way think they meant the temperature would actually be idle temperature.
                  And it's not a problem in any way on having it in that temperature really either... (then I mean full load)
                  Last edited by Nighthog; 12-17-2008, 09:17 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Gigabyte boards are always screaming hot.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDRH...e=channel_page

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