Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

New build, first Linux PC, what could go wrong? ;)

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • New build, first Linux PC, what could go wrong? ;)

    Hi all, I'm new here and have not built a system since the early PC days. I hope to soon have a new rig with only Linux. It will be a budget build, but not too budget since I want a spiffy Z97 mobo and the new unclocked pentium. Surely the pentium will work with Linux.

    Will all Z97 boards work? I am looking at:
    ASRock Z97 Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    $100 after the rebate.

    Or what about the new Z97 from Biostar?

    Printer: Epson WF2530 - just a matter of finding the driver?

    Keyboard: I hope to use one with LED key caps that make the letters stand out. I see no reason why this should be a problem.

    Graphics card? I do not need one.

    After all is working I must find out what SteamOS is. I am not a gamer but I ordered a steampunk case so I ought to learn a game or two.

    Thanks for any help!

  • #2
    Originally posted by climatepete View Post
    H... I ordered a steampunk case so I ought to learn a game or two.
    the Deepcool Steam Castle by any chance? i think that will be my new case. what colour you going for? black for me.



    anyway, sorry, no info for you on the Z97s. i seem to recall Michael saying we should be good to go on those boards but i don't have the refence for that at hand.

    Comment


    • #3
      I'm going ahead withthe AsRock mobo

      Hi Hooly, I see that Michael expects things to work, based on his considerable experience.

      Case? I am just using an outdated Corsair spec-01 that was being cleared with a $30 rebate. The side window is the big feature, along with some red LEDs.
      My case will not be impressive to regular system builders, but none of my friends will know the difference

      Comment


      • #4
        I'm running Mint 17 on an ASUS Z97-Pro with an i7-4970 (non-"K") CPU. Works fine. Ubuntu 14.4, too.

        Fedora 20 installed just fine, but I could never get it to recognize the network adapter (Intel 1218-V). Same story with some utility distros like SystemRescueCD and the AVGRescueCD. They probably don't have the driver...or perhaps just lack the device ID info. Intel has a Linux driver package for the 1218-V available and I suspect installing that would resolve the issue, but I didn't find it until after I got Mint up and running and decided I liked it enough to stay with it for the time being.

        Comment


        • #5
          Works perfectly on Ubuntu/Win8/OSX86. Bought that last August:

          Processor
          Intel Core i7 4770K
          Processor Cores
          4
          Processor Speed
          ovc to 4.6 Ghz
          RAM
          16 GB (Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 2x 8GB, DDR3-2400)
          Video Board Manufacturer
          Nvidia
          Video Board Model
          Asus GTX-770 DirectCU II 2GB GDDR5
          Video Memory
          2 GB
          Mother Board
          Asus Z87 PRO
          Hard Drives
          Samsung SSD 840 Basic, TLC, 500GB and 1TB HD
          Monitor
          LG L225WT
          Operating System
          Ubuntu etc.
          Joystick
          CH
          Yoke
          CH
          Rudder Pedals
          CH
          Other
          Corsair H90
          Asus DVD Burner
          Logitech cordless usb MK260 and QuickCam® Sphere™

          Comment


          • #6
            Printer: Epson WF2530

            If you are not printing with all-pigment inks (durabrite) then find another printer manufacturer.

            Check if your printer is supported via Gutenprint. Epson native driver is a serious joke.
            Will have to reset printer via cracking utility (10-20$) or epson service (100$) after certain amount of time. Google up waste ink counter. Only epson has it.
            Original cartridges are expensive, non-originals will have a hard time because of self-destructing chip at 20% and hard encoding that is hard to break. Non-original cartidges cost a lot more or are filled with much lower ink quality.
            There are at least three preprogrammed weak spots:
            - printhead is deeply integrated into system (can't take it easily out like on HP or Canon), it will be extra hard to clean it, and connected via a bus that is not isolated from fluids;
            - the printhead is usually gliding on non-dedicated shaft, that is actually a metal piece of housing itself, that is preprogrammed for early wear out. Only cheaper models are affected, but check out that you don't get such.
            - nearly all epson printers, the fins touching each chip on each ink cartridge are double-sided and every single of them is prone to breaking after certain amount of cartridge insertions.

            Basically, if you print a lot - get epson only if you print pigment (native ink - durabrite, NOT claria), otherwise get other brand; and install CISS with waste ink external bottle mod.
            Otherwise, get laser.

            Comment


            • #7
              My Epson Stylus Photo RX500 works fine out of the box, but I got tired of those expensive ink boxes.- If I ever buy a new printer it will be laser or alike.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by mike4 View Post
                My Epson Stylus Photo RX500 works fine out of the box, but I got tired of those expensive ink boxes.- If I ever buy a new printer it will be laser or alike.
                As a student who mostly needs to print administrative stuff in B&W, a Laser printer is a breeze. Changed the toner once in three years, and it was maybe only 10 - 15 € more than an average color printer (i.e. about 70 €).

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by climatepete View Post
                  Hi all, I'm new here
                  Hello!
                  Welcome on Phoronix Forums!

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
                    As a student who mostly needs to print administrative stuff in B&W, a Laser printer is a breeze. Changed the toner once in three years, and it was maybe only 10 - 15 € more than an average color printer (i.e. about 70 €).
                    I said - use laser if you print SMALL amounts.
                    1)toner(1xk or 1xc,m,y,k, each 100$)
                    2)fixer/transfer unit, 20-50$
                    3)laser unit or laser/drum unit(can be 1xk or 4x - each cmyk, each 100$)
                    When all the above materials are depleted, laser "housing" costs no more than 30$.
                    Hence bw laser is ~250$, but a color laser can be very pricey. Especially if it costs LESS, because lesser the unit/part cost - usually lesser the resource, so the $/page costs quicky skyrocket at entry models. Printing like 4,000 pages and costing 50$ toner+50$laser/drum unit, no mater what.


                    If you print a lot, there is no way around inkjet+ciss.
                    For example, I support five CISS in productions and have one CISS at home. I use inktec inks, but also used other brands.
                    1 ink package for 1 Liter(3x200ml cmy,1x400ml k) of inks costs ~25$.
                    1 liter of ink is sufficient to print 400,000 a4 pages (@25$). Even if you purchase new printhead or even new printer after 0,5 mln pages, its still runs around in circles of even corporate laser printing stations. Even if you buy pigment, its still never more than 40-80$/Liter (depending on manufacturer/year time).

                    Many industrial inkjets get equipped with factory CISS, like HP Designjet, Epson L series, Ultrachrome K3 inks etc. But they cost a fortune, of course
                    There is simply no point to not equip an inkjet with CISS. If done correctly, just throw out the used ink from time to time and print print print.

                    But if you print like 30 pages in a month, inkjet is not worth the effort/know-how time investment.

                    So there is only ONE advantage of laser - it doesn't give a damn about drying up. Mostly (if no more than 2-3 years standby).

                    Originally posted by mike4 View Post
                    My Epson Stylus Photo RX500 works fine out of the box, but I got tired of those expensive ink boxes.- If I ever buy a new printer it will be laser or alike.
                    Buy a CISS (~30-40$ incl s^h from China via ebay) and forget troubles.
                    Last edited by brosis; 06-27-2014, 07:54 PM.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      5min edit limit - correction, not 400,000 but around 50,000. The rest is true.
                      Find me a toner+drum/laser, that give that bang for a buck plz.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by brosis View Post
                        its still never more than 40-80$/Liter (depending on manufacturer/year time)
                        I looked and the cheapest I could find was 100€ for a CISS and 70€ for a liter of black ink for a random epson printer. Which is about 230$... and my laser toner was about 25 € IIRC (but I'll check next time I'll have to buy one ).

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
                          I looked and the cheapest I could find was 100€ for a CISS and 70€ for a liter of black ink for a random epson printer. Which is about 230$... and my laser toner was about 25 € IIRC (but I'll check next time I'll have to buy one ).
                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/ink-system-C...item27dfcbc602
                          This is pigment four color CISS with chip plane emulation, not cheap version. Delivery time - 3 weeks.

                          Inktec is 20-30$/1 Liter OEM bottle or about 35$ for equivalent component CMYK total of 1 Liter.
                          Something like designer print ink Ultrachrome K3 replacement may cost 100$/Liter, but original Ultrachrome is over 300$/Liter (regular Durabrite is at 1000$/Liter, go figure).

                          Your laser toner is one thing (mind you, its refilled/illegal/same boat as CISS >, but what about laser unit and drum resource. Toner is not the only one thing that expires...

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Skip the Epson

                            Originally posted by climatepete View Post
                            ...
                            Printer: Epson WF2530 - just a matter of finding the driver?
                            ...
                            Graphics card? I do not need one.
                            I've built and spec'd many Linux boxes. Here are some thoughts:

                            1. I'd skip the Epson printer. Get the HP OfficeJet Pro 8600 instead. It has excellent Linux support, and looks quite comparable. I bought two a few years ago for $140 each. Install the HPLIP utility and you are good to go.

                            2. You might consider spending $100-150 on an NV 750Ti. Its always handy to have a good graphics card, and the 750Ti provides about 3x the stock Intel performance and much better API support (OGL, OCL, and Cuda) which is useful for GPGPU tasks.

                            Good luck. Again, please don't buy any component before you have confirmed it works well with Linux. A few hours of up-front work can make for a much more pleasant and productive experience - like with any purchase.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by brosis View Post
                              but what about laser unit and drum resource. Toner is not the only one thing that expires...
                              Dunno, in about 6 years of laser I never had to change something else than the toners. And it's an el-cheapo Brother.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X