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  • Intel Q965GFEKR

    The Intel Q965GFEKR is the motherboard we will be using for our initial GMA 3000 tests. For those interested in this Q965 micro-ATX motherboard, here are a few shots of the system. If anyone has any specific requests or would like some additional thoughts on the board, just post.

    http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/rese...ture/index.htm






    Michael Larabel
    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

  • #2
    One thing to look for on these Intel motherboards is if their SATA controllers are the ICH7R, ICH7M, ICH7DH or ICH8R. If you get that then they should also support what is called 'ACHI' (Advanced Host Controller Interface).

    It's part of "Intel® Matrix Storage Technology". What it is is a open standard for driver communicating to your SATA controller. It's so you don't have to create special drivers for each new Sata chipset that comes out, if your controller support ACHI then it should be supported about equally as well. ACHI will be supported by Vista, and some other chipset makers have adopted it other then just Intel.

    What this means for Linux is that with newer kernels you gain very good driver support for your SATA controller.
    http://linux-ata.org/driver-status.html#matrix
    With the latest kernel (or maybe 2.6.19) you gain..
    Full Hotplug support (Yep. Libata supports that now)
    NCQ support.
    and Suspend/power management support.


    This means that with everything else right you should be able to do suspend to ram and suspend to desktop with it. If you want to setup a Linux server then this is great as with the newer chipsets your running over PCIe which means that the PCI buss limitations for software RAID is gone (Ignore the Intel BIOS Raid stuff.. Linux MD software raid is better). You gain hotplug support, which previously only special hardware controllers supported. etc etc.

    I don't know if this board supports it though...

    Also I am curious about the sound. Like how well can you get surround sound working with the onboard and especially SPDIF out with AC3/DTS passthru for setting up a home theater setup.

    With the Duo Core cpus (for the low heat), the onboard GPU, and if the spdif stuff is fine, then this motherboard would be ideal for a high performance home theater setup. Much easier to get quite then something with a big video card that required a big power supply.

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    • #3
      Also looking into Xen and VT might be interesting. For those people that need Windows for the odd program you should be able to setup Xen if the motherboard AND cpu support the VT extensions to run Windows in DomU. Then you should be able to access Windows XP Pro via rdesktop on your local desktop.

      Unfortunately for games and such it wouldn't help since Xen/Linux and hardware doesn't support the ability to allow host OSes control over peices of hardware (Maybe in a couple years)

      But maybe not. I donno, just a idea.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by drag View Post
        One thing to look for on these Intel motherboards is if their SATA controllers are the ICH7R, ICH7M, ICH7DH or ICH8R. If you get that then they should also support what is called 'ACHI' (Advanced Host Controller Interface).

        It's part of "Intel® Matrix Storage Technology". What it is is a open standard for driver communicating to your SATA controller. It's so you don't have to create special drivers for each new Sata chipset that comes out, if your controller support ACHI then it should be supported about equally as well. ACHI will be supported by Vista, and some other chipset makers have adopted it other then just Intel.

        What this means for Linux is that with newer kernels you gain very good driver support for your SATA controller.
        http://linux-ata.org/driver-status.html#matrix
        With the latest kernel (or maybe 2.6.19) you gain..
        Full Hotplug support (Yep. Libata supports that now)
        NCQ support.
        and Suspend/power management support.


        This means that with everything else right you should be able to do suspend to ram and suspend to desktop with it. If you want to setup a Linux server then this is great as with the newer chipsets your running over PCIe which means that the PCI buss limitations for software RAID is gone (Ignore the Intel BIOS Raid stuff.. Linux MD software raid is better). You gain hotplug support, which previously only special hardware controllers supported. etc etc.

        I don't know if this board supports it though...

        Also I am curious about the sound. Like how well can you get surround sound working with the onboard and especially SPDIF out with AC3/DTS passthru for setting up a home theater setup.

        With the Duo Core cpus (for the low heat), the onboard GPU, and if the spdif stuff is fine, then this motherboard would be ideal for a high performance home theater setup. Much easier to get quite then something with a big video card that required a big power supply.
        The Intel Q965GFEKR uses the Q965 Northbridge and ICH8 Southbridge, and yes, it supports AHCI.

        We've been working on a Xen performance article for a while now to compare both AMD and Intel CPUs.
        Last edited by Michael; 09-29-2006, 06:38 AM.
        Michael Larabel
        http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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        • #5
          Heh.

          Things are not looking up for the X3000 are they?

          'TheRegister' did a review of SuperMicro's PDSBA motherboard with the G965 chipset with x3000 igp. They used Windows and the performance was horrificly bad. No game they tried provided playable framerates.
          http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/10...ro_pdsba_g965/

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          • #6
            Still fighting some issues unrelated to the graphics... The numbers should be complete upon the FC6 launch next week. The GMA 3000 will be compared against some ATI products with the open-source R300 drivers.
            Michael Larabel
            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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            • #7
              Cool.
              Be sure to throw in a comparision with the fglrx propriatory drivers. I bet people will think that would be very interesting.

              Also gaming compatability would be interesting. Some free software games I guess (it's free software drivers after all!). Something like Torcs, Flightgear, Nexiuz, Termulos, Vdrift, ManiaDrive (check this one out if you haven't before) etc etc. What ever you like.(of course!) But also some of the more popular commercial items.

              This guy does a good job testing out his stuff it seems:
              http://megahurts.dk/rune/r300_status.html

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              • #8
                I REALLY hope you guys notice Q965 chipsets use GMA 3000 not the X3000 like the G965??

                Here are the two integrated graphics:
                Q965
                -667MHz core
                -Pixel Shader 2.0
                -Vertex Shader 3.0 SW
                -No Intel Clear Video
                -Partial DirectX 9.0 support
                -OpenGL 1.4+

                G965
                -667MHz core
                -Pixel Shader 3.0
                -Vertex Shader 3.0 HW(full T&L)
                -Fully compliant with Open GL 1.5 and DirectX 9.0C
                -Intel Clear Video Technology

                And yes, I am new .

                And BTW, Intel's GMA 3000 series aren't based on PowerVR. Search for it at Beyond3D forums.
                Last edited by DavidC; 10-13-2006, 09:17 AM.

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                • #9
                  Yes, we are well aware that the Q965 uses the GMA 3000. We have other motherboards for testing the X3000.
                  Michael Larabel
                  http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                  • #10
                    Yes, we are well aware that the Q965 uses the GMA 3000. We have other motherboards for testing the X3000.
                    Awesome. I also wanted to see Q965 along with G965. There shouldn't be a difference at this point, but we won't know until its tested.

                    BTW, on the Windows side, there is graphics driver version 14.25. 14.25 includes support for Pixel Shader 3.0.

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