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    Phoronix: Gigabyte's ASPM Motherboard Fix: Use Windows

    If you have an affected motherboard to the ASPM power regression in the Linux kernel and it's from Gigabyte, don't expect a BIOS update from them to correct the ASPM semantics in the BIOS. Gigabyte recommends you just use Microsoft Windows...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTAwMjg

  • #2
    i do have a gigabyte mainboard right now but to read this about gigabyte makes me sad--

    maybe i really buy supermicro or tyan next time.

    i do have a Tyan mainboard in the past but the nvidia nfoce 3600 pro makes many trouble with the graphic driver and the bios do have tons of bugs like the 128gb first boot pardition bug if you have a pardition greater than 128gb it fails to start grub. also the bios do have a bug that force me to use ext3 or raiserfs it does not start with ext4...

    but maybe the modern mainboards with amd chipset are much better than that.

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    • #3
      These are Microsoft technologies anyway. No wonder they don't work.

      But please feel free to wake me up next time a Linux vendor innovates a new Desktop hardware technology itself. I'm pretty sure Red Hat and Canonical have done much in this regard.

      /sarcasm off

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RealNC View Post
        These are Microsoft technologies anyway. No wonder they don't work.

        But please feel free to wake me up next time a Linux vendor innovates a new Desktop hardware technology itself. I'm pretty sure Red Hat and Canonical have done much in this regard.

        /sarcasm off
        What scares the hell out of me is how many motherboard manufacturers are going to use Windows 8 digital signing and not give an option to disable it in their bios rendering trying to install any other OS useless. I can actually see venders doing this in the near future as a way of avoiding the "hassling linux bug issues".

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        • #5
          Originally posted by phoronix View Post
          Phoronix: Gigabyte's ASPM Motherboard Fix: Use Windows

          ...Gigabyte recommends you just use Microsoft Windows...
          And now 40+ Million Linux users recommend you buy boards from manufacturers other than Gigabyte.

          Sad - I've got a couple of Gigabyte boards and never had problems with them, but see if I recommend their new boards to anyone now.

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          • #6
            The only difference displayed here between Gigabyte and most other PC hardware vendors is that someone at Gigabyte actually admitted that they call it a day once the product works with Windows.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View Post
              The only difference displayed here between Gigabyte and most other PC hardware vendors is that someone at Gigabyte actually admitted that they call it a day once the product works with Windows.
              Most motherboard manufacturers only list Windows as supported operating systems in their product descriptions and manuals. If it works in another OS, it's a bonus but rarely supported.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View Post
                The only difference displayed here between Gigabyte and most other PC hardware vendors is that someone at Gigabyte actually admitted that they call it a day once the product works with Windows.
                +1

                unless something like them doing the secureboot lockdown nonsense happens, I'm sticking with Gigabyte thank you very much

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                • #9
                  My experience

                  I have an Intel motherboard (DP55WG) where ASPM is also disabled by Linux and I re-enable. They do fairly frequent BIOS updates and seem to be on the ball so I wonder what the problem is. Most frustrating is that the BIOS hangs at POST if my Android phone is connected via USB. Needless to say their support blamed my phone (I wonder which bit of the USB says how to hang the BIOS) and had the ingenious solution of unplugging the phone before turning on power. Who would have thought of that? I did say they need to tell the BIOS writers, but support were just doing their usual having 10 answers and ensuring that all enquiries get one of them rather than addressing the issue.

                  I also have a Lenovo T61 laptop which had a BIOS issue with Linux (you got a flood of unexpected interrupts). They did fix that in a BIOS update and hence will be getting all my future business not to mention several people I recommend to.

                  I greatly appreciate Gigabyte's response. The usual problem is too wide a selection of motherboards so it is nice to eliminate several manufacturers in one go.
                  Last edited by grotgrot; 10-18-2011, 09:57 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by grotgrot View Post
                    I have an Intel motherboard (DP55WG) where ASPM is also disabled by Linux and I re-enable. They do fairly frequent BIOS updates and seem to be on the ball so I wonder what the problem is. Most frustrating is that the BIOS hangs at POST if my Android phone is connected via USB. Needless to say their support blamed my phone (I wonder which bit of the USB says how to hang the BIOS) and had the ingenious solution of unplugging the phone before turning on power. Who would have thought of that? I did say they need to tell the BIOS writers, but support were just doing their usual having 10 answers and ensuring that all enquiries get one of them rather than addressing the issue.

                    I also have a Lenovo T61 laptop which had a BIOS issue with Linux (you got a flood of unexpected interrupts). They did fix that in a BIOS update and hence will be getting all my future business not to mention several people I recommend to.

                    I greatly appreciate Gigabyte's response. The usual problem is too wide a selection of motherboards so it is nice to eliminate several manufacturers in one go.
                    The same thing happened with my Lenovo T520. I called their technical support and they told me to use Windows.

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                    • #11
                      I've had the best success with Biostar, though I only use their T-series AMD boards and I wouldn't want anyone to buy a board expecting Linux support. I've never used their tech support because I don't think they officially support Linux and I see they don't hire a lot of native English speakers... Comments on them from anyone else?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shining Arcanine View Post
                        The same thing happened with my Lenovo T520. I called their technical support and they told me to use Windows.
                        Bullsh!t. Ask them when you can expect the check for a Windows license.

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                        • #13
                          Who?

                          Who wrote the reply? Has is someone that was actually on the BIOS team, or some PR or marketing guy? Seeing as they confused driver support with fixing a BIOS buy, I'm guessing the later. It's not just about Linux, it's that the bios is not acting in accordance with the defined standards. Was the message actually delivered to anyone with the authority and know how to fix the bug? If not I would try addressing someone who did.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by WorBlux View Post
                            Who wrote the reply? Has is someone that was actually on the BIOS team, or some PR or marketing guy? Seeing as they confused driver support with fixing a BIOS buy, I'm guessing the later. It's not just about Linux, it's that the bios is not acting in accordance with the defined standards. Was the message actually delivered to anyone with the authority and know how to fix the bug? If not I would try addressing someone who did.
                            Yes but unless the issue effects the supported operating system there is little reason for them to bother fixing it. If it works fine in Windows that is all that matters to them. Also just trying to get the information to the proper people is a HUGE challenge. In the article Mike linked to a thread I posted some time back trying to get the proper information to Asus's BIOS team. I would invite you to read that thread and see how much of a challenge that is. I posted the full correspondence from one such episode ( I have had many such issues and every time to get anything resolved involved a late night phone call over seas.).

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                            • #15
                              What motherboards are used in Apple's Mac products? Maybe they would be more suitable for linux builds?

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