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    Phoronix: Radeon HD 7950 vs. GeForce GTX 680 On Linux

    Should you be looking towards purchasing a new high-end graphics card from AMD or NVIDIA, here are some updated benchmarks of the AMD Radeon HD 7950 and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 when both graphics cards were tested under Ubuntu 12.04 with their proprietary Linux graphics drivers.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=17405

  • #2
    Very interesting, but...

    What's the point of buying those cards if most GPU intensive games are 2-5 years of age?(X3 Reunion, ETQW, Heroes of Newerth, Oilrush)
    Steam games whenever they will come out are also old. I am not aware of any games that could take advantage of those cards. I'd love to play Rage game, but ID don't seem to be interested in porting it.

    Only those interested in GPU mining of bitcoins will probably be interested in those tests.
    Though, thanks Michael for interesting review. It was interesting, as usual. And I did not notice any beer photos :P
    Last edited by dimko; 06-04-2012, 07:27 AM. Reason: mispellings, added Oilrush, which I unresonably forgot

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    • #3
      Originally posted by dimko View Post
      What's the point of buying those cards if most GPU intensive games are 2-5 years of age?(X3 Reunion, ETQW, Heroes of Newerth, Oilrush)
      Steam games whenever they will come out are also old. I am not aware of any games that could take advantage of those cards. I'd love to play Rage game, but ID don't seem to be interested in porting it.

      Only those interested in GPU mining of bitcoins will probably be interested in those tests.
      Though, thanks Michael for interesting review. It was interesting, as usual. And I did not notice any beer photos :P
      games like Spring-RTS or 0AD can use these cards but michael do not have a PTS profile of these games because of this you don't know it because his benchmarks are useless because they don't cover Modern-REAL Opensource games

      0AD:

      Spring 1944:

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dimko View Post
        What's the point of buying those cards if most GPU intensive games are 2-5 years of age?(X3 Reunion, ETQW, Heroes of Newerth, Oilrush)
        Steam games whenever they will come out are also old. I am not aware of any games that could take advantage of those cards. I'd love to play Rage game, but ID don't seem to be interested in porting it.

        Only those interested in GPU mining of bitcoins will probably be interested in those tests.
        Though, thanks Michael for interesting review. It was interesting, as usual. And I did not notice any beer photos :P
        I understand your point but, isn't Crysis already 5 years old?

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        • #5
          Spring

          Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
          games like Spring-RTS or 0AD can use these cards but michael do not have a PTS profile of these games because of this you don't know it because his benchmarks are useless because they don't cover Modern-REAL Opensource games
          Played spring couple of years a ago(not 1945 mode) did not see much difference to be honest with max settings or average ones.
          It may only be noticeable when there are a few hundred unites rendered, system just becomes sluggish...

          Need to check out this 0AD thingy, but than i doubt that my Nvidia GTX470 card(overclocker card, that can't be overclocked on Linux, oh irony...) can't handle it reasonably well with maxed out settings.

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          • #6
            call me when

            Originally posted by bachinchi View Post
            I understand your point but, isn't Crysis already 5 years old?
            there is Crysis on Linux.(no, wine wont cut it, with it's random slowdowns, and generally low performance, and no, it's good, just not good enough)

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            • #7
              There doesn't seem to be much between the two hardware outcomes, other than Nvidia are happier to chew power when it's not needed. Example once you obtain a certain frame rate then wasting power is questionable. ATI results were on par with Nvidia but lower power use.

              The cheapest HD 7950 3gb is $425AUD in my local area. A GTX680 2gb is $829AUD. What a blow out with Nvidia, they really need to reduce their prices.

              The clear winner is ATI for price and performance. The only questionable area is drivers.
              Last edited by e8hffff; 06-04-2012, 08:35 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dimko View Post
                Played spring couple of years a ago(not 1945 mode) did not see much difference to be honest with max settings or average ones.
                It may only be noticeable when there are a few hundred unites rendered, system just becomes sluggish...

                Need to check out this 0AD thingy, but than i doubt that my Nvidia GTX470 card(overclocker card, that can't be overclocked on Linux, oh irony...) can't handle it reasonably well with maxed out settings.
                the performance clue about this kind of games is you can play spring with 5000 units per player up to 50 000 units on a super large map---

                same effect for 0AD any game works well with 1 unit but also with 10 000 units ?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by e8hffff View Post
                  There doesn't seem to be much between the two hardware outcomes, other than Nvidia are happier to chew power when it's not needed. Example once you obtain a certain frame rate then wasting power is questionable. ATI results where on par with Nvidia but lower power use.

                  The cheapest HD 7950 3gb is $425AUD in my local area. A GTX680 2gb is $829AUD, what a blow out.

                  The clear winner is ATI for price and performance. The only questionable area is drivers.
                  yes right! for a linux user the hd7950 is better.

                  also linux people should not buy nvidia because of ZERO opensource support

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                  • #10
                    Thanks!

                    Yeah maybe we don't need that kind of power on Linux... or Windows.... I for one think it's great that we can still get the info. BTW am I the only one who can't wait for AMD To stuff a 7950 into a APU?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by nightmarex View Post
                      Yeah maybe we don't need that kind of power on Linux... or Windows.... I for one think it's great that we can still get the info. BTW am I the only one who can't wait for AMD To stuff a 7950 into a APU?
                      no you are not the only one i also wait for this. because then you do have unlimited VRAM because a hd7950 class hardware share the same 64bit ram adresses than the "CPU"

                      right now with VLIW 5D and the new one VLIW4D the VRAM from the APU is exklusiv for the GPU means it just blocks the RAM and its limited to the blocked part of the ram.

                      this will be the biggest improvement with the new architecture of the hd7970 in the APU in 2013.

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                      • #12
                        You're right this time, Q. The APU's 3D cores are usually one generation behind. APU's with "6xxx" graphics in fact had an Evergreen (5xxx) based design, while the new Trinity marketed as 7xxx is in fact a Northern Islands (6xxx) based design. The display core however is not outdated in the Trinity APU (http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature#...splay_Hardware).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dimko View Post
                          What's the point of buying those cards if most GPU intensive games are 2-5 years of age?(X3 Reunion, ETQW, Heroes of Newerth, Oilrush)
                          IIRC Oil Rush came out a few months ago. And IIRC Unigine is supposed to be a state-of-the-art 3D engine.

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                          • #14
                            This one's a bit of a head-scratcher.

                            The benchmarks done on other sites seemed to indicate that the 680 clearly performed better.

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                            • #15
                              This is a nice review. I hope that we will see triple-monitor benchmarks from Phoronix one day.

                              @johnc
                              NVidia gives you faster performance on Windows. But that is partly due to their dynamic overclocking "GPU Boost", and at least their overclocking support on Linux used to be inferior to the Windows support.
                              Another thing to keep in mind is that Phoronix compared retail cards. French site hardware.fr compared cards intended for reviewers and for retail from Nvidia, and found that the press sample was between 1.5 and 5% faster than the retail sample.

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