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  • #91
    Originally posted by Loafers View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion, but I ended up choosing the GT-610 mainly for the price.

    Sadly, a lot of these cards — especially the zotac passive versions — are over-priced and increasingly difficult to find. No bang for the buck
    Ya passives tend to be more expensive then others but I haven't found Zotac's regular offering anymore expensive then the other brands. In fact they are usually on the cheaper end. Either way for just media playback purposes the GT-610 aka GT-520 will do fine. Great media playback support in linux with vdpau.

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    • #92
      Hi everyone, I've decided to try Steam for Linux, I bought some games like Serious Sam BFE and Amnesia. Since I have integrated graphics, I thought I might upgrade and refresh my system a bit. Here's what I have now:

      MB: H61M-S2PV
      CPU: Intel Celeron G530 Dual Core @ 2.4Ghz
      GPU: Intel 2000HD
      Memory: 8GB DDR3 @ 1333Mhz
      21.5" Acer Monitor Full HD

      I'm using Mint 13 KDE 64bit. I'm not familiar with graphics cards, I haven't really needed them up until now, so I don't know what to buy, what's supported properly on Linux, what will be supported and so on, how much of a bottleneck would my CPU be and so on. Graphics quality doesn't have to be the best. Now with Intel 2000HD and added Xorg Edgers ppa, Serious Sam is pretty much playable, Amnesia not so much, objects and walls are flickering when in-game. Look here:
      http://www.centro.hr/kategorije.2581...e-kartice.aspx

      Would any of these cards improve performance. I know that nvidia is best for Linux, but I don't know which to choose, or should I be going for ATI?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Zoran View Post
        Hi everyone, I've decided to try Steam for Linux, I bought some games like Serious Sam BFE and Amnesia. Since I have integrated graphics, I thought I might upgrade and refresh my system a bit. Here's what I have now:

        MB: H61M-S2PV
        CPU: Intel Celeron G530 Dual Core @ 2.4Ghz
        GPU: Intel 2000HD
        Memory: 8GB DDR3 @ 1333Mhz
        21.5" Acer Monitor Full HD

        I'm using Mint 13 KDE 64bit. I'm not familiar with graphics cards, I haven't really needed them up until now, so I don't know what to buy, what's supported properly on Linux, what will be supported and so on, how much of a bottleneck would my CPU be and so on. Graphics quality doesn't have to be the best. Now with Intel 2000HD and added Xorg Edgers ppa, Serious Sam is pretty much playable, Amnesia not so much, objects and walls are flickering when in-game. Look here:
        http://www.centro.hr/kategorije.2581...e-kartice.aspx

        Would any of these cards improve performance. I know that nvidia is best for Linux, but I don't know which to choose, or should I be going for ATI?
        Are you planning on using the proprietary or open source driver?

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        • #94
          I forgot to mention that, well I don't have anything against proprietary drivers, count them in....

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Zoran View Post
            Would any of these cards improve performance. I know that nvidia is best for Linux, but I don't know which to choose, or should I be going for ATI?
            I would wait for passively cooled Geforce GT730
            http://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-700/geforce-gt-730

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            • #96
              I don't know, like I said, it doesn't have to be bad-ass, I know that it can't be since we're talking about cards which are under 100$. I just need something that would let me play current games without flickering, and if it's at all possible to have graphics quality settings to medium. I'm not very demanding when it comes to these things. The cheaper, the better.....

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              • #97
                There are many answers to that question

                Originally posted by Zoran View Post
                I don't know, like I said, it doesn't have to be bad-ass, I know that it can't be since we're talking about cards which are under 100$. I just need something that would let me play current games without flickering, and if it's at all possible to have graphics quality settings to medium. I'm not very demanding when it comes to these things. The cheaper, the better.....
                Maybe look at a GT630 at around $75. It is a rebadged GT440. Much better than HD2000, but still mid-range. Will work with Nvidia Linux drivers. You should be able to get a GT640 for under a hundred.

                The other option, and probably better, is to get a second hand 9800.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by grege View Post
                  Maybe look at a GT630 at around $75. It is a rebadged GT440. Much better than HD2000, but still mid-range. Will work with Nvidia Linux drivers. You should be able to get a GT640 for under a hundred.

                  The other option, and probably better, is to get a second hand 9800.
                  GT640 has bad performance per price because of DDR3 memory. It is better to buy GTX650 which has DDR5 memory.
                  9800 has bad performance per watt.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by JS987 View Post
                    GT640 has bad performance per price because of DDR3 memory. It is better to buy GTX650 which has DDR5 memory.
                    9800 has bad performance per watt.
                    A GT630 is still miles better than HD2000, but of course any of the GTX series is going to be way better than a GT. But then the price climbs rapidly. This one is close to "under $100".

                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130827

                    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTE4NDE

                    It all comes down to how much money you want to spend and how keen you are.

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                    • Originally posted by grege View Post
                      Maybe look at a GT630 at around $75. It is a rebadged GT440. Much better than HD2000, but still mid-range. Will work with Nvidia Linux drivers. You should be able to get a GT640 for under a hundred.

                      The other option, and probably better, is to get a second hand 9800.
                      That's the card that I had my eye on, look at this:
                      http://www.centro.hr/detalji_proizvo...orchlight.aspx

                      I read somewhere that there's some kind of problems with Intel integrated and Nvidia discrete cards, that Nvidia can't take full control over graphics processing, that something called Bumblebee needs to be installed. Is that only on open source drivers, or are proprietary affected as well?

                      Is 1GB of VRAM enough? There's another version of this card with 2GB of memory, but memory clock is at 1Ghz, not on 1.6Ghz like this one above, should I take the faster one with less RAM, or slower one with more RAM?

                      And what's with KMS Console, I read that KMS has something to do with resolution setting. Is it important?

                      I realize that there's cards with faster memory speeds, but their more expansive and I really don't have the need for something like that. I just installed Team Fortress 2, and the game works rather well on full HD with medium quality settings, it just loads for an eternity.....

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                      • Someone with Steam experience please speak up

                        @Zoran

                        What we really need is someone with Steam experience to speak up and tell us what card they use. I can only speak theoretically. I know through a friend that GT610s work fine (Xubuntu 12.10) for normal desktop work and multi-monitor works with the Nvidia driver. Personally I run HD2000 graphics - but have no interest in games. I do not think KMS is really a problem once the Nvidia driver loads and you reach the log in screen. Unless there is some other issue with Steam and Wine. Is KMS really an issue that matters?

                        ps

                        Putting an Nvidia card on a motherboard with integrated Intel is not the same thing as Hybrid graphics. In your case the Intel will no longer exist (to the system) once you plug in the Nvidia card and Bumblebee is not relevant.
                        Last edited by grege; 01-10-2013, 05:46 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Zoran View Post
                          Is 1GB of VRAM enough? There's another version of this card with 2GB of memory, but memory clock is at 1Ghz, not on 1.6Ghz like this one above, should I take the faster one with less RAM, or slower one with more RAM?

                          And what's with KMS Console, I read that KMS has something to do with resolution setting. Is it important?
                          1 GB of VRAM is enough for GT630. 1 GHz memory is very slow.
                          KMS Console isn't important.
                          Last edited by JS987; 01-10-2013, 06:38 AM.

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                          • I have no idea about KMS, I'm not a particularly advanced user, I just read what @Vincent wrote about KMS console and I thought I should ask what he meant by that.

                            Like I said, on 2000HD, Team Fortress works fine, Serious Sam is relatively OK to play, Amnesia runs but there's flickering. Maybe I'll postpone upgrade until Steam matures more, or drivers perhaps....Thanks everyone for your input.....

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                            • Originally posted by Zoran View Post
                              I have no idea about KMS, I'm not a particularly advanced user, I just read what @Vincent wrote about KMS console and I thought I should ask what he meant by that.

                              Like I said, on 2000HD, Team Fortress works fine, Serious Sam is relatively OK to play, Amnesia runs but there's flickering. Maybe I'll postpone upgrade until Steam matures more, or drivers perhaps....Thanks everyone for your input.....
                              That's weird, I have the same card and I can't even get Team Fortress to start... That was even after upgrading to the latest Mesa etc.

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                              • You have Intel 2000HD? How does the rest of your setup look like? Which distro are you using?
                                I have the Xorg Edgers ppa, Mint 13 KDE 64bit with the latest kernel, I did dist upgrade. Before that Amnesia wouldn't work at all, in Serious Sam everything was black and white, out of whack basically and I didn't try Team Fortress, so I can't comment on that. But after upgrades situation is much better. Or maybe I don't have Intel 2000HD, I'm pretty sure that when I was buying components for my rig that It was Intel 2000HD on Celeron G530.

                                Code:
                                $ lspci | grep VGA
                                00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)

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