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  • #76
    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    Yeah, sorry, I didn't write enough. X won't be up at the time the artifacts occur, but your choice of X driver will affect which driver *is* running at bootup - I think.

    If you are running the open drivers then kms will have come up (modesetting code in the open source kernel graphics driver) and I *think* you will be running on "fb" devices created by the kms driver. If you are running the proprietary driver then that stack won't be running yet and you'll be running a different fb driver.

    I don't know an easy way to tell what driver is running during bootup so I figured it would be easier as a first step to figure out what driver is running after boot and work backwards from there
    The hardware drivers setup is confusing to me. Originally, I think I chose whatever the system recommended to me, and it worked, although I didn't realize for a while that there were things not working right.

    So, using the GUI, I went to the System Menu, Administration, Hardware Drivers, and I disabled the driver there, rebooted, tried the memory test, and it rebooted, tried the recovery mode, got the garbage, hit Ctrl-alt-delete, and then it worked correctly all the way. Lots of text output, all the VTs working.

    I went back to the Hardware Drivers, and now I get the confusing part: It says "Proprietary drivers are being used to make this computer work properly"

    It lists ATI Fire GL, and has the "Activate" button enabled. next to the button, it says "A different version of this driver is in use".

    My other Ubuntu system has an old NVidia card, and it always had only 2 choices - either use or not use the proprietary driver. This system seem to also have 2 choices, but they are use one or another proprietary drivers, and we'll leave it to you to figure out which is which.

    Is this normal? Should I go deeper and remove all the ATI drivers? Everything seems to work the same as before, fwiw. I even still have the same Catalyst Control Center.

    My motherboard came with ATI onboard, which I disabled. Maybe there are drivers left over from that?

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    • #77
      I have nothing positive to contribute to this thread. Just don't buy a 5450. They are a very low powered card. I purchased one and am very dissapointed with my purchase. It works, it just is a VERY low powered card.

      Spend the extra on something with more power.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by spinifex View Post
        I have nothing ... to contribute to this thread.
        Fixed for you (and I agree). Thanks for the pointless bump anyway.

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        • #79
          Worthless advice

          Originally posted by spinifex View Post
          I have nothing positive to contribute to this thread. Just don't buy a 5450. They are a very low powered card. I purchased one and am very dissapointed with my purchase. It works, it just is a VERY low powered card.

          Spend the extra on something with more power.
          What's wrong with low power? Or do you own stock in the electric company?

          Personally, I like the card I got - there's no fan, so it's quiet. Who wants to go deaf from all the loud fans on multiple computers? It cost me $35 - $40 after a rebate, has plenty of horsepower for what I need - running Compiz with Ubuntu.

          After reinstalling Ubuntu, it works well now. May have been the installation, or may have been the fact that I switched from 64-bit to 32-bit, but everything works fine now.

          People who make flat statements about how much power everyone needs without qualifying the application obviously don't understand value.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by linfidel View Post
            What's wrong with low power? Or do you own stock in the electric company?

            Personally, I like the card I got - there's no fan, so it's quiet. Who wants to go deaf from all the loud fans on multiple computers? It cost me $35 - $40 after a rebate, has plenty of horsepower for what I need - running Compiz with Ubuntu.

            After reinstalling Ubuntu, it works well now. May have been the installation, or may have been the fact that I switched from 64-bit to 32-bit, but everything works fine now.

            People who make flat statements about how much power everyone needs without qualifying the application obviously don't understand value.
            Exactly. I bought two of these cards because they are low powered. Being a non-powerful card also means that they literally use much less electrical power. In fact, I spent a little extra to get the PowerColor GoGreen version of the HD5450, which uses even less power than the normal version, mainly due to PowerColor replacing the voltage regulators with better ones. They accelerate Compiz on Ubuntu just fine, which is all I want. The CPUs on these PC's are going to be using enough power as it is, crunching almost 24/7 on BOINC projects and Folding@home.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by madbiologist View Post
              Exactly. I bought two of these cards because they are low powered. Being a non-powerful card also means that they literally use much less electrical power. In fact, I spent a little extra to get the PowerColor GoGreen version of the HD5450, which uses even less power than the normal version, mainly due to PowerColor replacing the voltage regulators with better ones. They accelerate Compiz on Ubuntu just fine, which is all I want. The CPUs on these PC's are going to be using enough power as it is, crunching almost 24/7 on BOINC projects and Folding@home.
              I will just guess but I suspect he doesn't mean electricity or wattage...

              The Radeon 5450 is not a powerful card... integrated cards (Intel HD 3000 for e.g.) are outperforming it now.

              AMD is also re-badging their cards now like Nvidia so it's easy to be a bit disappointed (putting it mildly) in video cards nowadays (both Nvidia and ATI/AMD are doing this).

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              • #82
                Originally posted by madbiologist View Post
                Exactly. I bought two of these cards because they are low powered. Being a non-powerful card also means that they literally use much less electrical power. In fact, I spent a little extra to get the PowerColor GoGreen version of the HD5450, which uses even less power than the normal version, mainly due to PowerColor replacing the voltage regulators with better ones. They accelerate Compiz on Ubuntu just fine, which is all I want. The CPUs on these PC's are going to be using enough power as it is, crunching almost 24/7 on BOINC projects and Folding@home.
                Haven't seen the PowerColor versions. I got an Asus version because it 1) had no fan, and 2) was cheap even without the $15 rebate.

                Some people don't get the idea about computers being versatile - they seem to think everyone does the same thing they do, so if something doesn't suit them, it's simply no good for anyone. As some of us know, there are countless ways to do useful work with a computer that do no require high-powered, high-priced graphics cards.

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                • #83
                  A couple of questions:
                  Has AMD/ATI stopped supporting this model?
                  The last driver I see is from 2010.
                  http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pa...ords=&items=20
                  What model series should I choose in ATI driver site?

                  Radeon HD 5450 support GPU acceleration currently in GNU/Linux?

                  Really, Do you recommend to me a ATI for GNU/Linux, or better a Nvidia with similar characteristics (g210, gt220)?
                  Sorry for my English.

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                  • #84
                    A couple of questions:
                    Has AMD/ATI stopped supporting this model?
                    The last driver I see is from 2010.
                    http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pa...ords=&items=20
                    What model series should I choose in ATI driver site?

                    Radeon HD 5450 support GPU acceleration currently in GNU/Linux?

                    Really, Do you recommend to me a ATI for GNU/Linux, or better a Nvidia with similar characteristics (g210, gt220)?
                    Sorry for my English.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by YAFU View Post
                      A couple of questions:
                      Has AMD/ATI stopped supporting this model?
                      The last driver I see is from 2010.
                      http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pa...ords=&items=20
                      What model series should I choose in ATI driver site?

                      Radeon HD 5450 support GPU acceleration currently in GNU/Linux?

                      Really, Do you recommend to me a ATI for GNU/Linux, or better a Nvidia with similar characteristics (g210, gt220)?
                      Sorry for my English.
                      I'm always wondering if AMD will support their cards.

                      I would recommend you pick a budget and then get a corresponding card. That's what I'll do.

                      The HD 5450 is pretty cheap but it's a HTPC card and there's comparable, newer cards that might be of interest to you.

                      The latest official driver is here, I believe:
                      http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...2&lang=English

                      Catalyst Rev. 12.3 aka fglrx 8.95

                      http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...ded_linux.aspx

                      http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...ivers-Seep-Out

                      If you go with AMD/ATI, at the very least, you will have confusion.

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                      • #86
                        AMD rebranded the HD5450 as HD7350 and is selling to OEMs still. The most recent fglrx supports everything from HD2400 and up.

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                        • #87
                          Ok, thanks.
                          But before buy the Radeon HD 5450 I need you to tell me if currently on GNU/Linux 5450 supports GPU video acceleration with the proprietary drivers and/or OpenSource driver through VDPAU.
                          Thank you.

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                          • #88
                            It does not work with 12-3, it works with 8.96 beta, but not vdpau - it is called xvba and works best with the FernetMenta branch of xbmc (the xvba branch is outdated now). it does not support h264 l5.1, i would definitely NOT buy the card if you want it for video accelleration. if somebody has got ati cards already this branch is the best to use for video acc but even intel oss has got better vaapi support (for standard xbmc or vlc).

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Kano View Post
                              It does not work with 12-3, it works with 8.96 beta, but not vdpau - it is called xvba and works best with the FernetMenta branch of xbmc (the xvba branch is outdated now). it does not support h264 l5.1, i would definitely NOT buy the card if you want it for video accelleration. if somebody has got ati cards already this branch is the best to use for video acc but even intel oss has got better vaapi support (for standard xbmc or vlc).
                              Thank you.
                              I have no intention to start a flame in this thread of ATI. But my budget is only enough for the ATI 5450 or Nvidia GT220. Do you recommend me the GT220 instead of the ATI 5450 for GNU/Linux?

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                              • #90
                                This is certainly the better choice. If you can not get a gt220 without fan go for a 210 fanless. The video engine is the same. Nothing is more annoying than active cooling on a gfx card used for a htpc.

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