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  • #21
    Well, you're asking too *soon* anyways. Wait until the product launches at least

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    • #22
      Your test is not fair, where is at lest 5850?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by brent View Post
        Michael, please keep in mind that SmallPtGPU contains a bug/incompatibility that seriously limits performance on NVidia hardware, especially pre-Fermi.

        Here's a diff that fixes it. This improves performance more than ten-fold on G80/GT200.
        I'm probably missing something here, but the patch that you linked only seems to correct things for Mac OS (#ifdef __APPLE__). The tests Michael ran were all in Ubuntu

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Veerappan View Post
          I'm probably missing something here, but the patch that you linked only seems to correct things for Mac OS (#ifdef __APPLE__). The tests Michael ran were all in Ubuntu
          NVidia's implementation defines __APPLE__ on all OSes, for... whatever... reasons. I think the workaround is not needed on OS X anymore, either. Removing it completely should be fine.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by brent View Post
            NVidia's implementation defines __APPLE__ on all OSes, for... whatever... reasons. I think the workaround is not needed on OS X anymore, either. Removing it completely should be fine.
            You can just run the executable compiled with ATI OpenCL SDK on any NVIDIA hardware so you will be sure to the benchmark exactly in the same condition.

            Please, note, defining __APPLE__ under Linux is a (huge) NVIDIA's bug.

            BTW, I'm the author of SmallPtGPU, MandelGPU, etc.; I have a 2x5870, 1x5850 and a 5770, let me know if you need to run the benchmarks on any of the above hardware.

            Michael, you may be interested to check http://www.luxrender.net/wiki/index.php?title=SLG
            It is a larger/more complex OpenCL application than the small demos (i.e. SmallPtGPU, ecc.) and it may provide more real-world numbers.

            You can find small demo video about SLG here: http://vimeo.com/14290797

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            • #26
              Originally posted by deanjo View Post
              Intel is not a openCL supporter.
              in that point Apple and Nvidia are the Good ones ;-) and intel is the Evil.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                in that point Apple and Nvidia are the Good ones ;-) and intel is the Evil.
                Intel is also the ones that killed Havok FX after having both nVidia and ATi demoing it on their hardware some 2 years earlier (GDC2006) then nVidia purchasing Physx. Chances are if intel didn't purchase and kill Havok FX nVidia would have never purchased Agiea a few years later to provide their own solution.

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                • #28
                  Intel do doubt saw that allowing Havok FX to live would mean giving more substance to the value of a GPU over a CPU, a market they still can't really compete in.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                    Intel is also the ones that killed Havok FX after having both nVidia and ATi demoing it on their hardware some 2 years earlier (GDC2006) then nVidia purchasing Physx. Chances are if intel didn't purchase and kill Havok FX nVidia would have never purchased Agiea a few years later to provide their own solution.
                    "Intel do doubt saw that allowing Havok FX to live would mean giving more substance to the value of a GPU over a CPU, a market they still can't really compete in."

                    intel is evil i know...
                    i never buy an intel cpu or product in the last 12 years.
                    and in the future i will never buy any product of this company.

                    but in my point of view nvidia fails on physX because an open standart like openCL and bulledphysik are much better also for nvidia thats because if there is more usage for an GPU nvidia will sell more GPUs and intel will lose more and more because no one need an fast CPU anymore.
                    on an open Standard like openCL only intel is the loser.
                    nvidia waste there time on CUDA and PhysX.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                      "Intel do doubt saw that allowing Havok FX to live would mean giving more substance to the value of a GPU over a CPU, a market they still can't really compete in."

                      intel is evil i know...
                      i never buy an intel cpu or product in the last 12 years.
                      and in the future i will never buy any product of this company.

                      but in my point of view nvidia fails on physX because an open standart like openCL and bulledphysik are much better also for nvidia thats because if there is more usage for an GPU nvidia will sell more GPUs and intel will lose more and more because no one need an fast CPU anymore.
                      on an open Standard like openCL only intel is the loser.
                      nvidia waste there time on CUDA and PhysX.
                      What the developers use for a physics engine is up to the developer. If a developer is willing to go through the "growing pains" of getting another physics engine going on GPU then they still have that option. Nobody is blocking them from doing so. Nvidia also contributes to openCL and probably has the best implementation of it out there along with some of the best documentation. They are not forcing anybody to use Cuda or Physx, that is the choice of the developer. If you don't like the developer using Physx then complain to the developer.

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