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    I am looking at a new system and just starting with a linux based OS.
    I a newb with linux. I am thinking of starting with Ubuntu

    Now i read that Ati Radeon cards work with ubuntu
    Would this XFX Radeon HD 4350 DDR2 1GB PCIe still work with the radeon drivers for ubuntu.

    Mainly i want to get World of Warcraft running on ubuntu.
    I havnt bought the system yet. Its a barebones system bundle that i will put together my self. But the graphiccard that comes with it is
    XFX Radeon HD 4350 DDR2 1GB PCIe.

    Does anyone got any help for me?

  • #2
    The card will work out of the box (and have 3D on Lucid), but you'll need the proprietary ATI driver (fglrx/Catalyst) to play WoW ( http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonProgram )

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DanL View Post
      The card will work out of the box (and have 3D on Lucid), but you'll need the proprietary ATI driver (fglrx/Catalyst) to play WoW ( http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonProgram )
      Asus M4A785-M Motherboard
      AMD Athlon II X2 240 Dual Core Processor
      Kingston 2GB PC5400 DDR2 Memory
      XFX Radeon HD 4350 Video Card
      500gb Western Digital WD5000AAKS Caviar Blue Hard Drive
      PowerUp ATX Black Mid-Tower Case with 450-Watt Power Supply

      I checked that website link it says the r700 sucks for World of warcraft??? Confused

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DanL View Post
        The card will work out of the box (and have 3D on Lucid), but you'll need the proprietary ATI driver (fglrx/Catalyst) to play WoW ( http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonProgram )
        Still i am confused. The link you gave me says the r700 drivers make it so you can run World of Warcraft very poorly. Is that site out of date?

        Or am i missing something?

        I would like to start with ubuntu/linux based OS but seems like thats not going to be an option for playin WoW. But i have Seen youtube videos of people running WoW on linux OS

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        • #5
          That link refers to how programs run with the open source drivers, not the binary (fglrx) drivers. DanL is saying that you need the proprietary drivers to run WoW.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Daygobah View Post
            Still i am confused. The link you gave me says the r700 drivers make it so you can run World of Warcraft very poorly. Is that site out of date?

            Or am i missing something?

            I would like to start with ubuntu/linux based OS but seems like thats not going to be an option for playin WoW. But i have Seen youtube videos of people running WoW on linux OS
            There are Ubuntu users here and someone will probably comment. Hopefully, someone will confirm but I believe you have to uninstall the open source radeon driver and install the binary (aka fglrx) driver when you want to play WOW.

            There's a link at that Xorg page to the FGLRX driver info.

            I think Ubuntu has the Restricted Driver Manager so you would run that and it should install the binary ATI driver.

            Maybe an explanation of how to switch driver is in order? Just install/uninstall, right, guys? If you want to watch video, the radeon driver is better? An uninstall of the binary driver and the radeon driver is in the repository (where your packages are - check Synaptic Package Manager) will then be used.

            I probably said too much but I'm debating upgrading my card to an ATI one so I'm sticking my nose in. Hope something I posted helps.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Panix View Post
              Maybe an explanation of how to switch driver is in order? Just install/uninstall, right, guys? If you want to watch video, the radeon driver is better? An uninstall of the binary driver and the radeon driver is in the repository (where your packages are - check Synaptic Package Manager) will then be used.

              Kano abaut ubuntu 10.04:
              "Btw. do you know the correct way to swith from fglrx to mesa or back? This is different than before as you can switch simply using:
              Code:
              sudo -i
              update-alternatives --config gl_conf
              ldconfig
              update-initramfs -u
              rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
              To switch to fglrx do this additonally:
              Code:
              aticonfig --initial --nobackup
              Then just reboot. Be sure that the kernel you use has all needed kernel headers and is not newer than 2.6.32 for fglrx without any hack. "

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Daygobah View Post
                I checked that website link it says the r700 sucks for World of warcraft??? Confused
                radeon opensource driver+R700 suck because only openGL2 and wine need ogl2.1!

                the best card for radeon is (X800/r300)to(x1950/r500) this cards do have r300g means Gealium driver with openGL2.1

                the R700 can handle WOW because of the FGLRX cloused source driver.

                but not every wine versions brings the same good result i think 1.1.37 is good...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Panix View Post
                  I believe you have to uninstall the open source radeon driver
                  never! you never uninstall the radeon opensource driver because you can use it as a fallback..


                  Originally posted by Panix View Post
                  Just install/uninstall, right, guys?
                  ubuntu have a installer system/systemsettings/hardware-drivers
                  just start this and klick on 'aktivate' to install the FGLRX


                  Originally posted by Panix View Post
                  If you want to watch video, the radeon driver is better?
                  you can fix the most players by using openGL output only some players like flash in firefox cant do this yes for that the radeon work better.

                  i think catalyst 10-6 fix some viedeo problems to

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                    Kano abaut ubuntu 10.04:
                    "Btw. do you know the correct way to swith from fglrx to mesa or back? This is different than before as you can switch simply using:
                    Code:
                    sudo -i
                    update-alternatives --config gl_conf
                    ldconfig
                    update-initramfs -u
                    rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
                    To switch to fglrx do this additonally:
                    Code:
                    aticonfig --initial --nobackup
                    Then just reboot. Be sure that the kernel you use has all needed kernel headers and is not newer than 2.6.32 for fglrx without any hack. "
                    Seems/sounds complicated but okay. So, it can detect and you can instruct which one you want to use?

                    I don't want to spread false info (RE: my previous post) and I was just asking what to do. It is good to know in case I buy an ATI card myself. Thanks for correcting...

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                    • #11
                      As an ex-X1950XT user I don't recommend you ati cards unless you wanna use winblowz. ati dropped its support so soon for R100-R500 (in 2009) and many users found themselves out in the open. And ati drivers' video decoding sucks so you can't watch HD content with them. You can have many headaches buying and amd/ati card.

                      Don't let that happen to you, buy an nVidia GPU!

                      Wow good rhyme

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Daygobah View Post
                        I am looking at a new system and just starting with a linux based OS.
                        I a newb with linux. I am thinking of starting with Ubuntu

                        Now i read that Ati Radeon cards work with ubuntu
                        Would this XFX Radeon HD 4350 DDR2 1GB PCIe still work with the radeon drivers for ubuntu.

                        Mainly i want to get World of Warcraft running on ubuntu.
                        I havnt bought the system yet. Its a barebones system bundle that i will put together my self. But the graphiccard that comes with it is
                        XFX Radeon HD 4350 DDR2 1GB PCIe.

                        Does anyone got any help for me?
                        Avoid anything with DDR2 memory! Especially on 128bit or less channel. This isnt linux specific.

                        If you want ANY 3D, I recommend anything with GDDR3 (notice G before DDR?) memory or higher.

                        I already had HD4650(128bit ddr2) and performance was very very very worse on a dualcore E5300 than with Gf6800 and Athlon XP! Once I put 9800GT instead of HD4650, it skyrocketed. Now, because I support AMD, I sold nvidia card and got HD4770 - its better than 9800. The problem is - memory and bandwidth. Either GDDR3 with 256 or GDDR5 with 128bit or more; never less!

                        Avoid anything less GDDR3!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                          Avoid anything with DDR2 memory! Especially on 128bit or less channel. This isnt linux specific.

                          If you want ANY 3D, I recommend anything with GDDR3 (notice G before DDR?) memory or higher.

                          I already had HD4650(128bit ddr2) and performance was very very very worse on a dualcore E5300 than with Gf6800 and Athlon XP! Once I put 9800GT instead of HD4650, it skyrocketed. Now, because I support AMD, I sold nvidia card and got HD4770 - its better than 9800. The problem is - memory and bandwidth. Either GDDR3 with 256 or GDDR5 with 128bit or more; never less!

                          Avoid anything less GDDR3!
                          I have narrowed my choices to XFX for brand and the following cards:
                          4770
                          4850
                          5770

                          I would choose the 5770 except for three issues:
                          1) limited to fglrx drivers and questionable support even in Ubuntu 10.04
                          2) price - it's a bit more expensive than the other two cards
                          3) I prefer choice and versatility - card won't be supported in Fedora 13 afaik because of more recent xorg version and recent kernel? I'm just speculating and yes, that's a bit of a brief summary and probably doesn't tell the whole story. But, the fact remains, the card won't work in Fedora 13 for a while?

                          I want to dual boot these operating systems:
                          Windows XP (sorry), Windows 7 (later...sorry), Ubuntu 10.04 (sorry to Ubuntu haters...lol) and Fedora 13 (hello???)

                          I have Debian on my laptop...

                          I'm just wondering whether I should stay safe and go with a 4770 ($100) or 4850 ($130) or WAIT for wider support and go for the 5770 ($170)

                          I prefer a newer gen. card but the HD 4xxx series of cards are cheaper and should be supported in even the most recent distros (regardless of distro and xorg/kernel ver.?)? Also, I can utilize the card with either the fglrx or FOSS driver?

                          I'm trying to switch to ATI so help me out there?

                          Maybe these annoying questions will help someone else more or less contemplating the same thing?

                          I checked the wiki for the ATI GPU comparison chart so I think these choices are sufficient although a little pricey depending on your p.o.v. I'll do 3D, 2D (movies etc.), *maybe* some gaming but I want the card capable regardless...

                          CPU is Q6600 and Corsair PSU (520w) so I think the rest of the hardware is sufficient for any of the video cards...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Panix View Post
                            I have narrowed my choices to XFX for brand and the following cards:
                            4770
                            4850
                            5770

                            I would choose the 5770 except for three issues:
                            1) limited to fglrx drivers and questionable support even in Ubuntu 10.04
                            2) price - it's a bit more expensive than the other two cards
                            3) I prefer choice and versatility - card won't be supported in Fedora 13 afaik because of more recent xorg version and recent kernel? I'm just speculating and yes, that's a bit of a brief summary and probably doesn't tell the whole story. But, the fact remains, the card won't work in Fedora 13 for a while?

                            I want to dual boot these operating systems:
                            Windows XP (sorry), Windows 7 (later...sorry), Ubuntu 10.04 (sorry to Ubuntu haters...lol) and Fedora 13 (hello???)

                            I have Debian on my laptop...

                            I'm just wondering whether I should stay safe and go with a 4770 ($100) or 4850 ($130) or WAIT for wider support and go for the 5770 ($170)

                            I prefer a newer gen. card but the HD 4xxx series of cards are cheaper and should be supported in even the most recent distros (regardless of distro and xorg/kernel ver.?)? Also, I can utilize the card with either the fglrx or FOSS driver?

                            I'm trying to switch to ATI so help me out there?

                            Maybe these annoying questions will help someone else more or less contemplating the same thing?

                            I checked the wiki for the ATI GPU comparison chart so I think these choices are sufficient although a little pricey depending on your p.o.v. I'll do 3D, 2D (movies etc.), *maybe* some gaming but I want the card capable regardless...

                            CPU is Q6600 and Corsair PSU (520w) so I think the rest of the hardware is sufficient for any of the video cards...
                            I would filter HD4850 out just upfront. The problem is: it is older chip(as the rest of 4xxx) and has GDDR3 memory. HD4770 is newer technology chip(the only in HD4xxx that has nm technology from HD5xxx) with 40nm manufacturing.

                            HD4770 is slower than HD4850 up to 20%. But, HD4850 eats up to double wattage 140W(almost as nv8800GT) vs 80W for that 20%. You can overclock HD4770 to match 4850(but not in linux yet, unless you want to reflash VGA Bios, which is risky). Also HD4770 idles 20W - 4850 40W.

                            Check this out(powerdrain for just gfx card): http://ht4u.net/reviews/2009/amd_rad...70/index11.php

                            So if thats not you who is paying electricity bill and you have no problem with heat of HD4850 go for it, its decent card.

                            Otherwise the obviously smarter choice is HD4770, performing a bit less without overclock, yet draining much less and being no furnace.

                            For 100 vs 140 its like christmas. In my country HD4770(95) was more expensive than HD4850(85), and pretty hard to find.

                            And if you want strictly perfomance that would be HD4870 and up. Lots of heat, lots of drain and lots of 3D.

                            HD5770 is awesome chip too, HD4770 taken to OpenGL4.0, but of course your only default choice for 3D and accelerated 2D would be buggy fglrx.

                            I have chosen 4770 with intention to upgrade to 5770 once it will be supported by opensource driver(accel 2D and 3D, powermanagement).

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Panix View Post
                              I have narrowed my choices to XFX for brand and the following cards:
                              4770
                              4850
                              5770

                              I would choose the 5770 except for three issues:
                              1) limited to fglrx drivers and questionable support even in Ubuntu 10.04
                              2) price - it's a bit more expensive than the other two cards
                              3) I prefer choice and versatility - card won't be supported in Fedora 13 afaik because of more recent xorg version and recent kernel? I'm just speculating and yes, that's a bit of a brief summary and probably doesn't tell the whole story. But, the fact remains, the card won't work in Fedora 13 for a while?

                              I want to dual boot these operating systems:
                              Windows XP (sorry), Windows 7 (later...sorry), Ubuntu 10.04 (sorry to Ubuntu haters...lol) and Fedora 13 (hello???)

                              I have Debian on my laptop...

                              I'm just wondering whether I should stay safe and go with a 4770 ($100) or 4850 ($130) or WAIT for wider support and go for the 5770 ($170)

                              I prefer a newer gen. card but the HD 4xxx series of cards are cheaper and should be supported in even the most recent distros (regardless of distro and xorg/kernel ver.?)? Also, I can utilize the card with either the fglrx or FOSS driver?

                              I'm trying to switch to ATI so help me out there?

                              Maybe these annoying questions will help someone else more or less contemplating the same thing?

                              I checked the wiki for the ATI GPU comparison chart so I think these choices are sufficient although a little pricey depending on your p.o.v. I'll do 3D, 2D (movies etc.), *maybe* some gaming but I want the card capable regardless...

                              CPU is Q6600 and Corsair PSU (520w) so I think the rest of the hardware is sufficient for any of the video cards...
                              I would bye the newer 5xxx series, even though the support is not that good in fglrx yet. Why? Because from my point of view, fglrx is improving very fast and stable 5xxx should arrive soon. With the latest fglrx drivers (10.5), many problems regarding wine and xvba have been solved.

                              Actually I can't give you an example where my fglrx fails anymore. Kinde boring stable actually. oh there is one point though. Better 2D support. But as far as I know, it will arrive next month with 10.6?

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