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  • Netbook for playing HD video (via HDMI on big screen)

    Hello, all
    I need netbook with HDMI and possibility to decode FullHD without problems. I have many videos h.264 1080p and MPEG-2 1080i and want to watch them on my 42"LCD.

    I choose between 'HP mini 311' (with Atom N270 and nVidia ION), 'Acer Timeline 1810T' (Intel Core2 Solo SU3500 and Intel 4500MHD), MSI Wind U210X (with AMD Yukon L335 1,6 and ATI Radeon X1250)
    What is the better solution for linux?

    Thx,
    Last edited by sspphheerraa; 12-25-2009, 06:24 AM.

  • #2
    The HP ion system is really the only choice to watch HD video in linux.

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    • #3
      I think none of the CPUs is strong enough to decode 1080p H.264, so without GPU acceleration you cannot playback that properly.

      Intel and AMD open source drivers do not accelerate H.264 decode at present. NVidia VDPAU should work with the proprietary driver.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by deanjo View Post
        The HP ion system is really the only choice to watch HD video in linux.
        This statement is not fully correct as is since other US15W-based netbooks fall into this category as well. However, you have to add "The HP ION system, with an HDMI connector, ..." ;-) IOW, netbooks with an HDMI connector are not so common.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gbeauche View Post
          This statement is not fully correct as is since other US15W-based netbooks fall into this category as well. However, you have to add "The HP ION system, with an HDMI connector, ..." ;-) IOW, netbooks with an HDMI connector are not so common.
          The statement is completely correct, US15W netbook is not capable of playing 1080p h264 in linux (or windows even once the bitrates increase). All ion based netbooks also feature a HDMI connection as well.
          Last edited by deanjo; 12-26-2009, 07:53 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by deanjo View Post
            The statement is completely correct, US15W netbook is not capable of playing 1080p h264 in linux (or windows even once the bitrates increase).
            It can. Even on Windows 7, though this one requires 2 GB RAM to get something near as smooth as one gets on Linux with only 512 MB...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gbeauche View Post
              It can. Even on Windows 7, though this one requires 2 GB RAM to get something near as smooth as one gets on Linux with only 512 MB...
              Using what? That great abandoned GMA500 driver?

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              • #8
                ARM netbook

                Wait for ARM netbooks, they gonna be launched in first quarter 2010. These netbooks will have special DSP integrated for HD Video decoding and they will be cheaper than the normal netbook.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Riotta View Post
                  Wait for ARM netbooks, they gonna be launched in first quarter 2010. These netbooks will have special DSP integrated for HD Video decoding and they will be cheaper than the normal netbook.
                  It's going to be hard for them to take on the Atom solutions on price. If anything intel has shown over the past that they are willing to drop prices to take on competition. Then there is of course the time it will take to get such accelerated support properly done and implemented. Beagleboard for example has been out for a while but nobody has taken on the task of porting XBMC to it and by the looks of it could be a long time for that support.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                    Beagleboard for example has been out for a while but nobody has taken on the task of porting XBMC to it and by the looks of it could be a long time for that support.
                    The Beagle Board looks nice, but... $149.00

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                    • #11
                      Hey sspphheerraa, what solution did you go for in the end?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by spangeman View Post
                        Hey sspphheerraa, what solution did you go for in the end?
                        nothing yet...
                        I think to wait when there will be more nVidia ION netbooks (actually I like Dell, maybe they will make it).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                          It's going to be hard for them to take on the Atom solutions on price. If anything intel has shown over the past that they are willing to drop prices to take on competition.
                          I'm not that convinced that ARM netbooks are a good idea, but if I remember correctly the dual-ARM + DSP 720p-capable chips I used to work with a few years ago cost about $5 in bulk, so I can't easily see Intel competing with an ARM-based solution on price.

                          As someone else said, the problem with the Beagleboard is that it's expensive and limited (hard to build an HTPC without SATA, for example), so in most cases there's little benefit to using it over an $80 dual-core Atom board.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by movieman View Post
                            I'm not that convinced that ARM netbooks are a good idea, but if I remember correctly the dual-ARM + DSP 720p-capable chips I used to work with a few years ago cost about $5 in bulk, so I can't easily see Intel competing with an ARM-based solution on price.
                            Well if the past is any indication about intel's willingness to low ball their competition they will just bundle ion sales with other processors making them essentially free. How many times have they been in court over their bundling and low ball tactics and they still say "business as usual".

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                              Well if the past is any indication about intel's willingness to low ball their competition they will just bundle ion sales with other processors making them essentially free.
                              True, they could somehow find a means to give away Atoms with other components; but for decent HD playback from an Atom you need an Ion chipset, so they'd just be funneling sales to Nvidia instead.

                              And I believe the Ion chip costs tens of dollars, so even with a free CPU that's still going to have a hard time competing on price with an ARM + DSP that might cost $10. Probably depends on whether people would be willing to pay an extra $50 to have an x86 CPU instead of an ARM.

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