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  • #16
    Im sorry could you please clarify?

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    • #17
      I am not 100% sure, but most likely the next years Atom CPUs will have got GMA 500 included. So it would be really nice to see some tests with vaapi mplayer and gma 500.

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      • #18
        I need one PCI-e 16x (or whatever the min is for a GT220) and one PCI...

        So far the best ITX board I've found has one mini-PCIE and one 16x PCI-e.
        So it's looking very unlikely I'll find an ITX board with any-more than that.

        I guess I could get some kind of riser card that splits the 16x into one 8x & two 4x OR two 8x?
        Then I could find some kind of converter that turns one of these slots into PCI 2.2?
        I believe they do exist, but they may only work with 1x or 4x PCIe, not 100% sure.
        Or maybe even something that converts the mini-PCIe into PCI?

        But it just gets too complicated I think, sigh...

        I have found one mATX board that uses dual core Atom, but it uses Intel IGP.
        http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pro...ID=129&LanID=0
        So I may as well just get a mATX mobo with geforce 9400 + core2duo don't you reckon?
        Last edited by jalyst; 12-06-2009, 09:13 AM.

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        • #19
          S775 plattform is certainly much better than Atom. Relatively (for Intel) cheap cpus like Pentium E6300 could be used there. But the price is too extreme for the boards with nvidia chipset. G41 is cheap, could be equipped with Nv gfx card if cpu would be too slow to decode what you want. That's at least by about factor 3 more unlikely than with Atom. Basically you could try the same with ATI plattform, cpus for the same price as a E6300 could be even a bit faster. Nvidia onboard is definitely more expensive than Intel/AMD plattform + dedicated gfx card.

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          • #20
            so even if I got a g41 (or similar) + nv GT220 it would still be cheaper than a mATX mobo based on the Geforce 9400? You sure about this, doesn't sound right...

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            • #21
              Why don't you check prices? For S775 nvidia chipsets have been the only ones that support SLI - and those are really expensive. If you find a cheap one show me the link.

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              • #22
                Oh I know the nV chipsets without IGP are very expensive as they're the only ones that offer SLI.
                But I didn't think the Geforce 9300/400 would be more expensive than G41 + GT220, or maybe I misread what your were saying.

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                • #23
                  G41 is cheap and you only need a G210 which i worte in my first answer. Somebody else mentioned the GT220, which is a bit more expensive but faster for 3d things.

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                  • #24
                    Okay I'll have a closer look at prices for G4x + GT2xx Vs Geforce 9x00.

                    Do you know of a site that explains the differences between gt210/220 etc?
                    I guess there's a wikipedia article, will have a look.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by jalyst View Post
                      But so long as there's a spare PCI-E 8x slot I can always add a GT2xx later if needs be!

                      Hopefully there's also one PCI slot for a discrete sound-card!?
                      No, the Zotac IONITX (and I suspect most Atom systems are like this) is relatively unexpandable. Buy it only if you like it as-is.

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                      • #26
                        Yeah trying to decide on mATX G4x + GT2xx Vs mATX Geforce 9x00...
                        If there's a way to totally disable Intel's IGP I'm guessing the former's the way to go; even it's actually more expensive.

                        Or maybe I should be looking at Intel P4x chipset based mobo's not G4x?
                        The price isn't going to be hugely different between all of them so that doesn't matter so much IMO.
                        Last edited by jalyst; 12-07-2009, 12:59 PM.

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                        • #27
                          It is usually disabled as soon as you put in a card. Also a nice fallback solution if your gfx card is not working.

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                          • #28
                            If you're sure of this i'll prolly go the g4x route instead of p4x.
                            I don't want any extra draw if it's not being used.

                            Cheers

                            Originally posted by Kano View Post
                            It is usually disabled as soon as you put in a card. Also a nice fallback solution if your gfx card is not working.

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                            • #29
                              Okay, so I'm going to get a mobo based on one of Intel's series 4 chipsets w/IGP
                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets

                              So which should I get: G41,G43,G45,Q43, or Q45?*
                              Most of them seem to have only minor architectural differences except for G41.

                              It can be ruled out as it has too many significant deficits:
                              8gb V 16gb ram, ICH7 (which is ancient) V ICH10x, pre v2.0 PCIe, & it isn't much cheaper.

                              Is x4500HD significantly better than x4500 in any way?
                              Can VT-d be of use for a device that will be a media player/front-end?
                              Of ICH10/ICH10R/ICH10D/ICH10-DO which is most useful?

                              Does anyone know if CULV is available in a socketed format instead of BGA?
                              Or at least soldered onto a Intel mATX motherboard that's available stand-alone instead of w/a laptop?

                              I've decided I'll be getting a GT 2xx for video duties.

                              Cheers
                              *B43 is on wikipedia but doesn't seem to exist anywhere on Intel's site so it's scratched.
                              http://www.intel.com/products/deskto...ts_body+dt_all
                              http://www.intel.com/products/embedd...&s2=all&s3=all
                              http://www.intel.com/products/server...&s2=all&s3=all
                              Last edited by jalyst; 12-13-2009, 10:17 AM.

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                              • #30
                                The top GPU in the low-end (40nm/dx10.1) GT 2xx series is the GT 240 right? [aka GT215]
                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU#Table_of_NVIDIA_GPUs

                                It doesn't surpass the 220 [aka GT216] in-terms of video assistance, only 3d acceleration right?
                                Does anyone know where all the exact differences are documented?

                                Would the GT 240 be better than the 9600GT for 3d acceleration?
                                Does it draw much more & run hotter than the 220 as a result, or only when gaming?

                                With these Intel IGP chipsets; does the IGP switch-off entirely if a discrete card's inserted?
                                Last edited by jalyst; 12-13-2009, 10:38 AM.

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