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    Phoronix: Linksys Reviving The WRT54G Router In 802.11AC Form

    Many Phoronix readers likely recall the glory years of the open-source-friendly Linksys WRT54G router that for some is still a great device and there's still the thriving OpenWRT community. Good news out of CES today is that Linksys is letting the WRT54G live-on in the form of the 802.11ac-based WRT1900AC...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTU2MTg

  • #2
    Way too expensive.

    Also the old Linksys was owned by Cicso.
    Nowadays it is owned by Belkin which I trust much less.

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    • #3
      This should be about the WRT54GL? The WRT54GL is the router with Linux based firmware that can be easily used with DD/Open WRT (i use one right now with DD-WRT). Some of the G/GS variants arent that OSS friendly AFAIK.

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      • #4
        For $300 I'd build a computer and stick a bunch of network adapters in it.

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        • #5
          "the open-source-friendly Linksys WRT54G"? You must be joking. As mentioned above the WRT54GL was the one that made it at least a bit opensource-friendly. The required Broadcom chip driver was still closed source and using it required running a 2.4x kernel. There were reverse enigeneering efforts like brcm47xx but in the time a ran OpenWRT on the WRT54GL 2.6 based brcm47xx has never been stable enough to be usable. It was a great device per specs, but the lack of opensource-friendlyness was actually the main reason why I replaced mines with some Buffalo WZRsomething later.

          On some other news page the wording in regards to OpenWRT-compatibility was "they are going to port OpenWRT to it" which sounds rather awkward, given OpenWRT uses a Linux kernel with a minimum possible amount of patches. So, does Linux now run on hat new thing out of the box, or will OpenWRT devs be required to maintain a package for some binary driver blob sh*t yet again and Linksys will just work with them to get things (resp: the mess) started?

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          • #6
            They miss the point of the WRT54G that was taking cheap common hardware and doing nice things with it.
            For that kind of money, just glue a 802.11ac router to an arm board or something...

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            • #7
              Many Phoronix readers likely recall the glory years of the open-source-friendly Linksys WRT54G
              Recall the glory years? *looks to the left* Yeah, my WRT54GL is running as fine as ever, thank you very much. That said, for the longest time I didn't know projects like DD-WRT existed. Then I found out they do, and now I'm running DD-WRT on it (and enjoying features like LAN computer names much easier to type in "ssh user@dragon" than "ssh user@192.168.1.103" and hope the IP hasn't changed since last time). And now that I do, I won't buy any routers without DD-WRT support.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                now I'm running DD-WRT on it (and enjoying features like LAN computer names – much easier to type in "ssh user@dragon" than "ssh user@192.168.1.103" and hope the IP hasn't changed since last time).
                thats why I use dns

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by philip550c View Post
                  thats why i use dns
                  :d 1234

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tgui View Post
                    :d 1234
                    What is that supposed to mean? Maybe I should reiterate, thats why I use dns and static ips.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                      Way too expensive.

                      Also the old Linksys was owned by Cicso.
                      Nowadays it is owned by Belkin which I trust much less.
                      But that's the advantage of open source software: the amount of trust to still have a working system is much lower. Broadcom is the real question -- even their newer wl driver only works in special situations. I believe an embedded Intel 802.11ac system would be best (no first hand experience, just smallnetbuilder benchmarks). Qualcomm Atheros would be my second choice and Buffalo will probably do it and cheaper too.

                      I have a WRT54GL and switched it to a WZR-HP-G300NH because of this issue -- I _really_ wanted fq_codel but it isn't on the older kernels. Note you can install a modern openWRT on the WRT54GL but the system memory can't handle it.

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                      • #12
                        Overpriced, did they forget the economy still sucks and the original was a cheap AP.

                        Anyone have info on building a custom x86 based ap? With all the recent holes I just don't trust these off the self units anymore.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gradinaruvasile View Post
                          This should be about the WRT54GL? The WRT54GL is the router with Linux based firmware that can be easily used with DD/Open WRT (i use one right now with DD-WRT). Some of the G/GS variants arent that OSS friendly AFAIK.
                          The g/gs came before them and are very functional with dd/open wrt. I have one but recently it has been straining to provide the bandwidth I need and coverage. Mainly because I moved to an area where every channel is used by more than one person so even pumping up the output is not working.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by toyotabedzrock View Post
                            Anyone have info on building a custom x86 based ap? With all the recent holes I just don't trust these off the self units anymore.
                            Well, if anything, I have a nice inexpensive Atheros PCIe card in my computing/media/NAS server that I use as a wireless access point. It's working very nicely, all that was needed was to install hostapd and configure it (have network bridges set up and such). I'm using Gentoo (with systemd) on that machine.

                            Originally posted by toyotabedzrock View Post
                            The g/gs came before them and are very functional with dd/open wrt. I have one but recently it has been straining to provide the bandwidth I need and coverage. Mainly because I moved to an area where every channel is used by more than one person so even pumping up the output is not working.
                            Hah, same problem here, and that's actually the reason why I bought that wireless card. Unfortunately I don't get to use it much, though, since the server is rather noisy and thus it's not very pleasant to have it on all the time (but that's just because it has totally overpowered CPU and GPU for the use case).

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dukenukemx View Post
                              For $300 I'd build a computer and stick a bunch of network adapters in it.
                              Or just use an old PC. Pretty much anything - even from 10 years ago - still has a better CPU than your typical SOHO router. Though at least Linksys routers are better than most. I've seen some from Dlink and Belkin and I really can't describe those devices without using the word "scam".

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