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  • Sound Drivers Gets Better With Linux 3.12 Kernel

    Phoronix: Sound Drivers Gets Better With Linux 3.12 Kernel

    The Linux 3.12 kernel will feature improvements to existing sound drivers and there's also some new drivers / audio hardware support...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ1NDE

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    The 3.11 kernel fixed a long-standing bug with my USB card and PulseAudio which stopped working randomly sometimes every 20 minutes or so and PulseAudio had to be restarted. It was probably related to my shitty USB controller which triggered a bug in the USB ALSA driver, big thanks to whoever finally fixed it!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
      So in 2013 it looks like we will have sound! About time!
      I know you're trolling, but I've had sound for a decade...
      BTW, who unbanned you (and what the fsck were they thinking)?

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      • #4
        And yet radeon HDMI audio is still off by default..

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
          Compared to Windows the audio stack in Linux sucks shit.
          If you like Windows so much, then why don't you use that and leave us alone? If the cost bothers you, pirate it like everyone else does.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
            Compared to Windows the audio stack in Linux sucks shit. Completely amateurish hack. And instead of fixing it, they add more amateurish hacks in a desperate attempt to hide their incompetence.
            What do you feel would be the correct approach, then? Not contradicting you, strictly speaking. I agree that Linux audio is still a mess. But since you like to troll everything, I'm curious to see you offer a solution. What would you do differently?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
              Basically throw all the layers that are there now and just rip off the windows solution. Like, copy their design. No need to be original in everything. I hate it when using Jack that I can't listen to music. It looks very amateurish and hackish. Microsoft must have gotten something right.

              Right now they correct lower level mistakes by adding another layer.
              Not being familiar with the sound stacks on a code level, I am not in a position to determine whether or not that code should be thrown out completely. However, I agree with your observation that problems appear to be fixed by hacking on additional poorly working layers on top of existing poorly working solutions. Perhaps it really is time to just restart from scratch. I doubt that copying the Windows approach would be viable on account of it being closed source and on account of technical incompatibility. However, Windows can still be used as a model of what success looks like.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                Basically throw all the layers that are there now and just rip off the windows solution. Like, copy their design. No need to be original in everything. I hate it when using Jack that I can't listen to music. It looks very amateurish and hackish. Microsoft must have gotten something right.

                Right now they correct lower level mistakes by adding another layer.
                Linux sound stack is indeed a mess. however windows is no better. anyone doing pro audio on windows still uses Steinberg ASIO rather than Windows stack- the-jour.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                  Basically throw all the layers that are there now and just rip off the windows solution. Like, copy their design. No need to be original in everything. I hate it when using Jack that I can't listen to music. It looks very amateurish and hackish. Microsoft must have gotten something right.

                  Right now they correct lower level mistakes by adding another layer.
                  Would you care to explain how they are different? What design does MS use that Linux hasn't?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by amehaye View Post
                    Linux sound stack is indeed a mess. however windows is no better. anyone doing pro audio on windows still uses Steinberg ASIO rather than Windows stack- the-jour.
                    I have always had better experiences with audio on Windows than on Linux. However, I have only done pro audio (editing and original composition) on Linux, not Windows, so my observations of Windows audio being superior to Linux audio are based on very assymetric experiences. If it is true that people doing pro audio on Windows prefer a 3rd party stack, then I stand corrected.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                      Basically throw all the layers that are there now and just rip off the windows solution. Like, copy their design. No need to be original in everything. I hate it when using Jack that I can't listen to music. It looks very amateurish and hackish. Microsoft must have gotten something right.
                      http://klang.eudyptula.org/
                      Have fun...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DanL View Post
                        This is just a vaporware.

                        http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...nel#post278112

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Serge View Post
                          I have always had better experiences with audio on Windows than on Linux. However, I have only done pro audio (editing and original composition) on Linux, not Windows, so my observations of Windows audio being superior to Linux audio are based on very assymetric experiences. If it is true that people doing pro audio on Windows prefer a 3rd party stack, then I stand corrected.
                          Well a large part of that is going to be a little something that people love to deny about audio hardware, which is to say the fact that there's a DSP. Under windows the drivers are written capable of completely taking advantage of all of the DSP's capabilities, however the linux drivers are very lacking in this regard, which is part of why for instance I can't use the Dolby Headphone Virtual surround sound feature with my Corsair Vengence 1500 headphones under Linux even though it makes sound sound a lot better under windows, which makes the Linux experience lacking in comparison there. And for that matter as well part of why I can have EAX 1, 2 & 5 on my C-Media based Xonar card under windows but the card will never support EAX 3 or 4 no matter how what community driver or how much they hack on it, because that's functionality that is part of the DSP.
                          Last edited by Luke_Wolf; 09-06-2013, 07:19 PM.

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