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  • Linux Can Work On The 2013 MacBook Air

    Phoronix: Linux Can Work On The 2013 MacBook Air

    As soon as Apple launched their Haswell-based MacBook Air I purchased the "ultrabook" for its long battery life, great build quality, and impressive design. However, running Linux on the 2013 MacBook Air has been a pain. It wasn't running cleanly but it looks like the major kernel booting problem comes down to a UEFI interaction issue...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ0NTA

  • #2
    the rotted apple

    Please, don't complain if you buy anything from the rotted apple and it doesn't work the way you want. They don't want you to install anything on THEIR computer. It's that simple. You may even be doing something unlawful

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    • #3
      Originally posted by wargames View Post
      Please, don't complain if you buy anything from the rotted apple and it doesn't work the way you want. They don't want you to install anything on THEIR computer. It's that simple. You may even be doing something unlawful
      I agree. Apple has been suing every Android heavy user to prevent the Linux based mobile system from growing. The claims were silly, and based on stupid UI "intellectual property" , umm, patents. Of course, Android ate them alive regardless.

      But I would never buy a product from Apple. I hate giving cash to a company that uses software patent wars systematically (not that others had to enter the war pulled by Apple). There are worthy competitors for every product they produce, and typically they offer a better value.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mendieta View Post
        But I would never buy a product from Apple. I hate giving cash to a company that uses software patent wars systematically (not that others had to enter the war pulled by Apple). There are worthy competitors for every product they produce, and typically they offer a better value.
        I agree with you: I don't like supporting Apple patents war.

        The problem is there aren't worthy alternatives as of now. The only ultra book with the same battery life is the VAIO pro 13 with an external battery sheet and it's around 1500$

        I'm really curious about how much the battery will last on the macbook air using a GNU/Linux distro.
        I'm not leaving Arch Linux + KDE SC for OSX and if the battery life isn't good the air can stay on the shelves, IMHO.

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        • #5
          only a...

          only a stupide guy buys this shit for running linux distro

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Andrecorreia View Post
            only a stupide guy buys this shit for running linux distro
            Thank you, Andre!
            What's wrong with looking for the cheapest ultrabook with 12h of battery life(*) and wanting to preserve my workflow?

            As a developer I use Dolphin and Kate everyday. They are awesome.
            Recently I had to use OSX for a while and Finder + Sublime were pretty lame replacements.
            And I'm not willing to give away Arch Linux bleeding edge packages and the AUR.

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            • #7
              I hope all the compatibility issues are sorted out soon and the battery life is not significantly reduced under Linux.

              With the previous Macbook Airs, has the battery life taken a hit when running Linux?

              For my Linux dev laptop, I am trying to decide between:
              • Haswell 2013 Macbook Air (Excellent battery life under OS X, good chassis, low-res screen, many Linux compatibility issues)
              • Dell XPS 13 (non-Haswell but 1080 screen, good Linux support, cheaper than alternatives at $900 for a new one off eBay)
              • Chromebook Pixel (Excellent screen but $$$, 4GB RAM, 64GB SSD, non-upgradeable) (probably unlikely)

              Any thoughts and recommendations?

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              • #8
                I have a Macbook Air 2013 13" running Arch Linux and it runs pretty well.
                Battery life is about 9 to 10 hours (down from 12h on OSX) but I think that is largely because I can only toggle the screen brightness between maximum and off. Also sound (speakers only) do not work.

                I got a Macbook, because at that time it was the only good thin haswell-powered Laptop I could find.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by justin2net View Post
                  I hope all the compatibility issues are sorted out soon and the battery life is not significantly reduced under Linux.

                  With the previous Macbook Airs, has the battery life taken a hit when running Linux?

                  For my Linux dev laptop, I am trying to decide between:
                  • Haswell 2013 Macbook Air (Excellent battery life under OS X, good chassis, low-res screen, many Linux compatibility issues)
                  • Dell XPS 13 (non-Haswell but 1080 screen, good Linux support, cheaper than alternatives at $900 for a new one off eBay)
                  • Chromebook Pixel (Excellent screen but $$$, 4GB RAM, 64GB SSD, non-upgradeable) (probably unlikely)

                  Any thoughts and recommendations?
                  How are the newer Thinkpads running under Linux, these days?
                  (say, one of the 4xx series -- I lucked into a pristine used T410 (with the good screen) for an terrific price, and I'm loving it. I might have gone looking for a newer one (for better battery life) but there was the whole hybrid-graphics mess, and I decided to wait).

                  Otherwise, there might be something worth your trouble at a Linux-focused vendor such as ZaReason or System76.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by wargames View Post
                    Please, don't complain if you buy anything from the rotted apple and it doesn't work the way you want. They don't want you to install anything on THEIR computer. It's that simple. You may even be doing something unlawful
                    As bad a company as Apple is they do have the best built hardware in their given market segments. They really know how to make that slave labor work for them far better then every other company out there.

                    Don't kid yourself, all of your electronics, even the OpenPandora are made using slave labor, that is unless OP stopped buying the plastic cases and boards from china, thats not to say that most of the components aren't also still made by slave labor, those chips and resistors all came from somewhere, and given the electronics industries race to the bottom that is usually a factory many people would rather die then be forced to work at.

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                    • #11
                      I love adventures

                      Originally posted by wargames View Post
                      Please, don't complain if you buy anything from the rotted apple and it doesn't work the way you want. They don't want you to install anything on THEIR computer. It's that simple. You may even be doing something unlawful
                      I buy their Desktop computers, because they're very reliable, to install Gentoo on them.
                      It's an adventure to get it running, though.

                      But: Gentoo-users love adventures .

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                      • #12
                        Kernel

                        What about Linux kernel 3.10 and 3.11?
                        Does Macbook Air 2013 work on them?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bernard Swiss View Post
                          How are the newer Thinkpads running under Linux, these days?
                          (say, one of the 4xx series -- I lucked into a pristine used T410 (with the good screen) for an terrific price, and I'm loving it. I might have gone looking for a newer one (for better battery life) but there was the whole hybrid-graphics mess, and I decided to wait).
                          I use openSUSE 12.3 on my Thinkpad X230 and it runs great. I've also previously tried Linux Mint 14 on it and it ran well apart from a bug in kernel 3.5 that extended the shutdown time due some problem with the Intel WiFi driver, however upgrading to a newer kernel fixed it.

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                          • #14
                            From the kernel bug it sounds like it is some issue with the Mac's Compatibility Support Mode. If you want to learn more look at Rod Smiths website at http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/. I have also set up the beginings of a wiki surrounding multibooting Mac's using the EFI at http://multiboot.info. Any additional info that can be added to the wiki would be great!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                              What about Linux kernel 3.10 and 3.11?
                              Does Macbook Air 2013 work on them?
                              As I said I'm running Archlinux and it runs well with Kernel 3.11.0-rc5 but I've also been running 3.10 in the past.

                              Contrary to my experience Michael said in his Linux Is Still A Lemon On The 2013 MacBook Air article that the Macbook Air ist not running with kernel 3.10 or 3.11.

                              Note: I own the 13 inch model, while Michael is using the 11 inch model. (same processor)

                              Note2: I'm not the only one sucessfully running Linux on the Macbook Air (See here)

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