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  • #31
    I'd go with a Unicomp keyboard.
    They bought the manufacturing line from IBM model M keyboards in Lexington.
    It's definitely worth the money.

    And, at the same time, you don't support sweatshop-made hardware.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by entropy View Post
      I'd go with a Unicomp keyboard.
      They bought the manufacturing line from IBM model M keyboards in Lexington.
      It's definitely worth the money.

      And, at the same time, you don't support sweatshop-made hardware.
      They make good keyboards indeed. But better to get original tens of years old authentic IBM Model M.



      I however tested Razer mechanical keyboard, and it felt quite good while being much more silent than the M. Almost had to buy it.

      http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyb...lackwidow-2013

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      • #33
        Thanks anyway

        Thanks, I've been looking for a low profile type keyboard like this. Don't like the 'Windows' key though, I usually Sharpie the logo out. I might actually get the one Kivada recommended, I'd rather support people making Linux keyboards than be reminded that I bought a NSA/Windows product.

        Guy's, Amazon doesn't even list Linux in its indie game section when some of the games actually support Linux. I really appreciate the Keyboard review Micheal, but thats not a way to support Linux.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by oliver View Post
          Gamers don't even use numpad that much
          I guess you've never played roguelikes...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
            Well yes, the numpad iis also very useful for those who are not native English speakers and have accented symbols. They usually replace the number row, so you can enter numbers with the numpad, and accented characters with the number row.
            Uh what, people actually do that? Why not just get a localized keyboard?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
              This is a keyboard that schools and workplaces can buy by the hundreds for cheap.

              However, this is not a keyboard that a professional computer user wants to use.

              You should get a keyboard with mechanical switches.
              Filco and Cherry supposedly have some good keyboards I've heard.

              Cherry have the MX series of switches, Blue, Red, Black, Brown, Clear, White - each with different properties (clicky, tacile, actuation force).
              i would say with some authority that the shape of the keyboard itself is more important than the switches. i use a split keyboard with a raised front which is a precursor to one of the ms natural keyboards. My first one took 10 years of every day use to wear out, I still have one extra. that was the only way i could eliminate wrist and elbow pain. i have 2 ibm m series keyboards i don't even use.
              Last edited by bnolsen; 07-30-2013, 08:48 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by dee. View Post
                I guess you've never played roguelikes...
                vi like key bindings. you must be fairly new to roguelikes the early ones provided these by default.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by dee. View Post
                  Uh what, people actually do that? Why not just get a localized keyboard?
                  In case you want to type in more than just the local language.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bnolsen View Post
                    vi like key bindings. you must be fairly new to roguelikes the early ones provided these by default.
                    I played Larn and Nethack in the early 90s, don't know if you consider that "fairly new"... and yes, they were played with vi keys, especially since the VT-100 terminals we used didn't have any numpads...

                    Still, apart from nostalgia or baby duck syndrome, there's really no point in using the vi keys in modern roguelikes, the numpad is much more convenient and easy to use, especially for games that have lots of keybindings and you want to have the vi keys available for command keys.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by archibald View Post
                      In case you want to type in more than just the local language.
                      Well if you have to constantly type in two languages with very different alphabets, I think it's better to just get two keyboards...

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by dee. View Post
                        Uh what, people actually do that? Why not just get a localized keyboard?
                        There theoretically is the ĄŽERTY layout here in Lithuania. In practise, finding a keyboard like that is just as difficult as finding a keyboard without a numpad. And for a good reason, too. You need those English symbols. I need them right now. The Internet largely speaks English.

                        Originally posted by dee. View Post
                        Well if you have to constantly type in two languages with very different alphabets, I think it's better to just get two keyboards...
                        That's not true in the slightest. It's a bit inconvenient that you need to press Alt + Shift (or whatever else you have configured) to switch keyboard layouts, but that far, far beats using an entirely different keyboard. My desk doesn't even have enough space to put another keyboard.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by dee. View Post
                          I played Larn and Nethack in the early 90s, don't know if you consider that "fairly new"... and yes, they were played with vi keys, especially since the VT-100 terminals we used didn't have any numpads...

                          Still, apart from nostalgia or baby duck syndrome, there's really no point in using the vi keys in modern roguelikes, the numpad is much more convenient and easy to use, especially for games that have lots of keybindings and you want to have the vi keys available for command keys.
                          hehe, you started the one upsmanship with an incorrect statement. I still prefer vi type keybindings for playing roguelikes although its been years since I've played one.

                          My current keyboard is several years old, it appears I've never touched the number pad. I dont' do data entry though, mostly just scientific programming with mostly variables and a few numerics mixed in which makes me stay "at home". And yes I'm a heavy vi user so I naturally use just a basic subset of a keyboard anyways.

                          So for internationalization, what do people do with laptop keyboards which tend to dump the keypad anyways? I notice asian language entry doesn't use the keypad and I haven't seen anyone operate a keyboard with cyrillic or other languages that may require a smallish superset of a 101 or so key keyboard.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                            Well yes, the numpad iis also very useful for those who are not native English speakers and have accented symbols. They usually replace the number row, so you can enter numbers with the numpad, and accented characters with the number row. Though it's also not an ideal solution, because if you, say, need to write an exclamation mark, you have to switch to the US layout again (or use Alt Gr + Shift + 1). You could also just use the COMPOSE key for that, but it requires quite a few key presses.
                            I've always liked the way Macs handles this, it's far more natural to me http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards2.asp

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by bnolsen View Post
                              hehe, you started the one upsmanship with an incorrect statement. I still prefer vi type keybindings for playing roguelikes although its been years since I've played one.
                              So grab Dungeons Of Dredmor, it's worth it, theres tons of mods for it and it's fully native. The expansion packs are worth it as well.

                              http://www.gaslampgames.com/
                              http://www.desura.com/games/dungeons-of-dredmor
                              http://steamcommunity.com/app/98800

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by bnolsen View Post
                                So for internationalization, what do people do with laptop keyboards which tend to dump the keypad anyways? I notice asian language entry doesn't use the keypad and I haven't seen anyone operate a keyboard with cyrillic or other languages that may require a smallish superset of a 101 or so key keyboard.
                                Use Alt+Shift even more often, that's what.

                                Originally posted by Kivada View Post
                                I've always liked the way Macs handles this, it's far more natural to me http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards2.asp
                                ...yeah, that's essentially the COMPOSE key.

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