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  • #16
    Interesting idea. However, I expect we are going to see more and more android phones with built-in wireless display technology like the galaxy SIII has now, and the wireless display adapters are cheaper than this. So there isn't really any advantage to this over just getting a bluetooth controller and wireless display, and the latter approach has the advantage that you can still use touch-based games.

    Add to that the fact that manufacturers are releasing TV's, bluray players, and set-top boxes with android built-in, and we will likely see that continue. Then we have google releasing the Nexus Q, and we will probably see similar third-part products like that coming out.

    So I don't see much place for a dedicated gaming system running android.
    Last edited by TheBlackCat; 07-11-2012, 05:05 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by elanthis View Post
      I think you're massively confused about what this console is for or capable of. It's a cheap crappy Android phone in a box. It is not a gamer class PC. This hardware is going to have trouble running 1990's style games at today's expected TV resolutions. "Advanced" gaming is not part of the target market for this device.
      It's a multi core Tegra 3. That is probably around xbox360 gfx quality. When I say advance I mean interactive games that require more buttons then a basic controller has, and the ability to quickly type in sentences and commands.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by oliver View Post
        Because as quoted above, it has been found to be extremely ergonomic. And at most one handle? On the left side? Are you serious? I'm a righty, but I'm sure there's plenty of lefties that are quite happy the controller is pretty symmetrical, or can be reasonable well be used by lefties.
        Your argument is mute, as there is a distinction from left to right, regarding buttons and d-pad. Never seen a pad that flips the button config to suit left and right handed players, so expecting a left handed person to not have a handle on the right side isn't not an issue.

        I'm saying if they want a handle then put it on the left side only, an L shape or gun on its side, that way you can free up access, and keep a thin profile at the important side.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by e8hffff View Post
          It's a multi core Tegra 3. That is probably around xbox360 gfx quality.
          Are you trying compare Tegra 3 GPU (7,2 GFLOPS@300MHz) and Xbox 360 GPU (240 GFLOPS@500MHz)?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kivada View Post
            Ture enough, too many people think Android = Linux.
            And YOU seem to think that Linux = GNU/Linux.
            Android/Linux is as much Linux as GNU/Linux, but Android/Linux is NOT= GNU/Linux.

            Linux is the KERNEL, which can run Android (popular, outsells MSWONDOZE 4:1) or GNU (unpopular, out[sold/used/?] by MSWONDOZE 10:1) on top of it.
            Last edited by droidhacker; 07-11-2012, 09:01 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kwahoo View Post
              Are you trying compare Tegra 3 GPU (7,2 GFLOPS@300MHz) and Xbox 360 GPU (240 GFLOPS@500MHz)?
              I think that it is important to recognize that the entertainment value of a device is less about the physical specs than it is about what it can do. Commercial console games are typically boring and unimaginative. Repetitive use of the same concept with different themes and graphics differentiating them. This is mass media developed to satisfy brainless consumers, very much like major music studios (most common popular music sounds the same), hollywood, etc. -- which is so bloated and lost that they can't come up with anything new, so we're seeing stupid crap like REMAKES of classics (from the days when they still had imaginations), and ill-conceived sequels (indiana jones 4, etc.)

              I, for one, would be MUCH more impressed by a new, smaller and simpler game, that was unique and imaginative.

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              • #22
                Huston, we got a problem

                I don't have a telly?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                  And YOU seem to think that Linux = GNU/Linux.
                  Android/Linux is as much Linux as GNU/Linux, but Android/Linux is NOT= GNU/Linux.

                  Linux is the KERNEL, which can run Android (popular, outsells MSWONDOZE 4:1) or GNU (unpopular, out[sold/used/?] by MSWONDOZE 10:1) on top of it.
                  Well Android may as well be "MSWONDOZE" if the implementation on most devices is any hint as to what cancer is killing computing by making computers nothing more then dumb appliances with back doors for companies and governments to literally track your every move and thought.

                  I'll still take real Linux on hardware that hasn't been compromised by anyone but the Chinese.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by dimko View Post
                    I don't have a telly?
                    It has HDMI out, you don't have an LCD screen with at least DVI?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                      I think that it is important to recognize that the entertainment value of a device is less about the physical specs than it is about what it can do. Commercial console games are typically boring and unimaginative. Repetitive use of the same concept with different themes and graphics differentiating them. This is mass media developed to satisfy brainless consumers, very much like major music studios (most common popular music sounds the same), hollywood, etc. -- which is so bloated and lost that they can't come up with anything new, so we're seeing stupid crap like REMAKES of classics (from the days when they still had imaginations), and ill-conceived sequels (indiana jones 4, etc.)

                      I, for one, would be MUCH more impressed by a new, smaller and simpler game, that was unique and imaginative.
                      I'm for that so long as it's more imagination then we see with the OSS gaming world.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kivada View Post
                        I'm for that so long as it's more imagination then we see with the OSS gaming world.
                        Its the PLATFORM that is OSS. Not (necessarily) the games. This platform will be open for commercial development as well, including those organizations not big enough to get through the barrier to entry of the big closed platforms.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kivada View Post
                          Well Android may as well be "MSWONDOZE" if the implementation on most devices is any hint as to what cancer is killing computing by making computers nothing more then dumb appliances with back doors for companies and governments to literally track your every move and thought.

                          I'll still take real Linux on hardware that hasn't been compromised by anyone but the Chinese.
                          As I've said, Android is fully REAL LINUX. There is nothing about it that is ANY LESS LINUX than that Debian server that you drool over that nobody will let you touch.

                          And as always, Android REMAINS OPEN SOURCE. "device" implementations are of no importance.
                          If you like, you can always get an Android device (phone or tablet) that has only been compromised by the Chinese. LOTS of those available, dirt cheap.

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                          • #28
                            I'm happy to see another group taking a shot at this.
                            I am sad to see that they are attempting this with low-performance hardware.
                            I'd love to see an AMD Trinity based platform.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by kwahoo View Post
                              Are you trying compare Tegra 3 GPU (7,2 GFLOPS@300MHz) and Xbox 360 GPU (240 GFLOPS@500MHz)?
                              For starters the maximum frequency of a Tegra 3 quad core is 1.4 GHz with a 520MHz GPU, per core. Then consider the 12 core GPU in a basic Tegra 3.

                              I wasn't implying the Tegra was better than the xbox 360 at graphics but coming up to range., especially when scoped with Xbox 1. The range is 40-80% in my guess. Maybe I'm wrong as I really haven't done thorough research. Also it's all subjective.

                              http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/tegra-3-uk.html
                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra

                              Check this out:
                              http://www.anandtech.com/show/5762/n...ox-360-by-2014
                              Last edited by e8hffff; 07-11-2012, 12:17 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                                As I've said, Android is fully REAL LINUX. There is nothing about it that is ANY LESS LINUX than that Debian server that you drool over that nobody will let you touch.
                                Some times the best way to look at something is to see its reverse argument.

                                Example, You have an new Android tablet, or a new released Ubuntu 12.04 tablet. Which one do you buy?

                                I'd buy the real Linux one, and that's Ubuntu in this case. Real Linux could be argued as your own built kernel, as well.

                                Lets not forget Android runs a Java layer for all its commercial and public content. I don't call that real GNU/Linux.

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